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thethirdi · 6 years ago
It's weird hearing it and thinking back on myself and actually seeing what the article talks about. I feel weird. I feel like a shouldn't be burdened by this because that shows weakness, bits that's exactly what the article talks about...
rydler · 6 years ago
This is very true. All my life I’ve heard “Toughen up” or “Man up” “Get over it” about stuff that’s upset me, or hurt me in some way.
It’s sad to think about how others have listened to this and shut all feelings inside. A tough exterior, that can end up pushing people away.
deleted · 6 years ago
I personally don't think feminism will help boys.
Boys need something that attracts them by name, and can be a movement they can be proud of.
MRAs and MGTOW are just for neckbeards with no lives, and meninism is a parody.
rydler · 6 years ago
I don’t think we need anything, just to realize that it’s okay to show emotion.
sir_spiderman · 6 years ago
@rydler That would be one of the goals of the movement. "We don't need anything, just to realize that black people shouldn't be discriminated against." It's not nearly so simple. You need something to push that idea and to spread it.
rydler · 6 years ago
Yeah. But I don’t want a movement
sir_spiderman · 6 years ago
You not wanting one doesn't mean we don't need one.
rydler · 6 years ago
True. I never said we didn’t need it.
rosalinas · 6 years ago
That hit me hard (i was technically raised as a man. Without feelings nor any sort of allowance to show emotions nor weakness)
sir_spiderman · 6 years ago
I'm a borderline "femboy" and I actively ignore masculinity in favor of doing what makes me feel best.
rosalinas · 6 years ago
That's good
You should look after yourself and your own happiness
Not forcing your feelings and actions to fit others expectations and standards
willfree · 6 years ago
That's a great article, a really compelling argument.
deleted · 6 years ago
Hmm.
I don't say I exactly embody what a man is. I'm not Uber aggressive, nor am I extremely buff. I like to talk about feelings, but not when they don't matter. I care and stand up for what I believe in, and defend those I love. However, I'm not one for bawling, or crying when I experience hardship. Nor am I just going to pour out my feelings at a moment's notice to just anyone, nor will I for that matter.
I feel like I'm slowly fitting into these sterotypes, and I'm comfortable with that, I just wish I could actually not be dead inside by doing that.
sir_spiderman · 6 years ago
I'm not comfortable around men. I prefer the company of women when it comes to relaxing or talking, and I happened to pick up many female mannerisms in doing so. I'd be wearing makeup if my mother didn't take me asking for it as a joke and laughed. I spend a decent amount of time on my hair everyday and use essential oils to mitigate acne. On that note, I better go file my nails again as I just noticed that one has grown a little.
rydler · 6 years ago
That’s just self care, nothing female about it.
sir_spiderman · 6 years ago
I left quite a bit out, but those things mentioned are considered going trans in my area.
deleted · 6 years ago
I get along with women, and as being raised by one and rarely having a man in my life, I have seen the other side of the coin. I'm still a guy, maybe even sirspidermans opposite. I just put some water and oil on my hair, rarely wash my face unless needed, and take showers when I know I'm dirty. I'm not comfortable around a circle of girls, though. Too many just..weirds me out.
sir_spiderman · 6 years ago
I can't stand the company of men with the exception of a few select people who either are too close for me to not relax around such as my brother or are so feminine that it doesn't trip the "Go hide under the bed" alarm. My issue wasn't that there weren't men in my life - it's that all the men were abusive or neutral towards me on some level which instilled this fear that manifests as an inability to trust them and discomfort around them.
rydler · 6 years ago
I think you explained this to me a while back, but yeah that makes sense.
parisqeen · 6 years ago
That's a good article, thanks for sharing @sheeby78