Do you really want to exclude trans-people from sports? That´s transphobic you shitlord. Now sit in the corner and think about your wrong thoughts.
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Fuck you. When they're men transitioning over to women it gives them an unfair advantage. Men have been scientifically proven to have both more muscle and bone mass than women, making them stronger. And you used the terms "shitlord" and "transphobic" so get off this damn website.
i aint the guest but grim, you need to fuck off. this isn't your website, don't tell people what to do or not do on here. This person worked towards their goal in this event, they shouldn't be excluded. yes she has an advantage, but with that logic, Jamaicans shouldn't be allowed to compete in sprints because a lot of them have genetics that give them great stamina (aka the ACA gene)
Yes, but here's the kicker. If she were born a girl, she WOULDN'T HAVE those genetics.
Unlike the Jamaicans. Who already have the proper genetics without human interference.
So saying that it's perfectly fair is not quite the truth.
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It's like the transgender MMA fighter who went from man to woman.
it's not perfectly fair, i never said it was, but she shouldn't be excluded from competing because of the way she was born (which is why i made the aca reference, because neither parties had a choice of their genes, but they take advantage of them)
By all accounts, yes she should be. Because that violates the rules by giving her an unfair advantage over every other woman there. Because on the base biological level, she's not a woman. Down to the very genetic makeup of her being she is a guy.
And a guy shouldn't be allowed to compete in female only competition.
look man I'm not going to argue, you have your opinion, i have mine. Personally, i feel like she should have transitioned before competing so she would have less of an advantage since she would have to be taking estrogen to overtake the amount of testosterone in her body
There is a reason for the separation of genders. Men are much faster and stronger than women. This is a fact. Want to know a fun fact? Carmelita Jeter is the current holder of the fastest 100 meter dash at 10.64 seconds. She wouldn't have even qualified for the male 100 meter dash as the minimum speed is 10.18-10.24.
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I'm not hating on women. I am just stating a fact. It's called Sexual Dimorphism.
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**THE FASTEST WOMEN IN THE WORLD WOULDN'T EVEN QUALIFY IN THE OLYMPIC MALE 100 METER DASH**
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As a girl I think she should be excluded because of the argued points above. They can do a Transgender only competition and she can go to that one if she desires, but she doesn't deserve that win
*I apologize for my mistake. Carmelita Jeter is not the fastest female. That belongs to Florence Griffith-Joyner at 10.49 seconds, set in 1988. However, my point still stands.
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I agree. A transgender only competetion should be a thing. If trans-males(males who became females or whatever the term is) start to commonly participate in the female Olympics then no normal female will be able to win again.
I want to know what the other women in the competition think
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I also want to know if this was someone born with xx chromosomes who has been through a sex change operation, or is it the stereotypical middle school version of transexuality, where a boy decides to try being a girl to get more attention.
Trans people, as far as I know do not change genders because they have the wrong chromosomes. Neither do they change "for attention". The trans people I know suffered for years because they felt wrong in their bodies. Which in many cases can cause depression, anxiety and a whole host of other problems. It takes a monumental amount of courage to not only admit that but to then face the stigma, the negative reactions and the hardships that go along with trying to grow into the person they truly feel they were meant to be. I can't say anything on the topic of what's scientifically going on because I'm no expert on it. All I can say is to be kind to your fellow human.
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I'm all for being kind, and that's great advice. It's also kind to not cheat the system to break records and win medals (And sponsorships and prize money, etc.).
I'm not saying that's what happened here, because, like you, I don't know. I'm just balancing the kindness scales to show the gray area surrounding these issues.
Anecdotally, I have been a teenager, and I had teenage friends who said that they were gay, so that socially it was way more acceptable for them to spend time with the young women. In our choir and drama department, being gay meant that girls didnt think twice about changing in front of you.
Most of these guys are now in long-term relationships with women. So stereotypically, they were faking gender dysphoria for a free show.
Now that our anecdotal evidences have canceled one another out, can we agree to disagree?
Remember that jamaican woman who looked like a man? Was she a he? Now to the post, women will always have disadvantage over men, always, it's unfair for women. Sadly there will be stupid sjw bumheads who will try to defend the transgender, if they win competition won't be the same.
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Well, because "she" was born a he, as in, she was born in a male body. It a sport for physical superiority, separated by females and males, you should be classified in the body you were born in, so chromosomes before gender in this scenario.
Unlike the Jamaicans. Who already have the proper genetics without human interference.
So saying that it's perfectly fair is not quite the truth.
And a guy shouldn't be allowed to compete in female only competition.
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I'm not hating on women. I am just stating a fact. It's called Sexual Dimorphism.
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**THE FASTEST WOMEN IN THE WORLD WOULDN'T EVEN QUALIFY IN THE OLYMPIC MALE 100 METER DASH**
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I agree. A transgender only competetion should be a thing. If trans-males(males who became females or whatever the term is) start to commonly participate in the female Olympics then no normal female will be able to win again.
I'm open to correction, what's wrong about what I posted above?
I'm not saying that's what happened here, because, like you, I don't know. I'm just balancing the kindness scales to show the gray area surrounding these issues.
Anecdotally, I have been a teenager, and I had teenage friends who said that they were gay, so that socially it was way more acceptable for them to spend time with the young women. In our choir and drama department, being gay meant that girls didnt think twice about changing in front of you.
Most of these guys are now in long-term relationships with women. So stereotypically, they were faking gender dysphoria for a free show.
Now that our anecdotal evidences have canceled one another out, can we agree to disagree?