With hundreds of antifa showing up to beat down people who peacefully rallied for their beliefs, I doubt that's possible.
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There may be people on the right that proclaim themselves Nazis, but the brown-shirts have thrown their lot in with the left.
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Did the antifas carry the same type of guns as the nazis?
What? They showed up with masks and clubs. That usually indicates that they are upstanding citizens intending to recite study the Torah and the Bible while knitting socks for the homeless.
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Masks and clubs carried by people of all ages, genders and races against mainly young, white males carrying rifles? Well yeah, basically the same on both sides.
I saw a fringe group that acquired a permit for a demonstration. (I did see coverage of a militia that hung out on the edge and supposedly left when trouble started.) Most pictures in the news showed the permitted demonstrators carrying Virginia battle flags and torches, not rifles. Then the unpermitted, masked, and armed protesters arrived with flags of their own. Are flags with raised fists on them symbols of peace? How about soviet flags?
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How about Old Dixie? Hate creates hate, but it started somewhere. And guess where.
I'm sorry. I was lazy. The flag you are referencing is the battle flag of the army of northern Virginia. http://www.vocativ.com/usa/red-state/confederate-flag-rebel-flag-theres-a-difference/
I have no problem with that flag. It serves as a reminder of what can go wrong. To others it symbolizes the belief that they will stand and fight when backed into a corner. Slavery was not the sole issue that led to the split. Look up the taxes imposed on the south by northern legislators in the 1830s, it was likened to the taxes levied by King George that finally sparked the American Revolution. The south believed they were once again fighting tyranny. They did not realize that they were pawns in a deadly game.
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Yeah, and the swastika is an ancient symbol of wisdom. Too bad it's generally seen as a symbol for really, really bad things. As is that flag, and EVERYbody knows that. And these people with their torches and their rifles and their nazi slogans and their nazi salute and everything didn't exactly leave much room for interpretation of their motives. Post that rag in your living room or man cave or backyard or wherever, fine. But marching with it in public accompanied b y all that mentioned above is sending a very certain message and you shouldn't insult yourself by pretending it doesn't.
Doesn't change the fact their approved rally was peaceful until Antifa and BLM showed up and started fights.
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If by peaceful you mean there was no coordinated attack, but from the very beginning there were single attacks on counter-protesters out of the rallye.
If 100/1000 anti revisionist protestors are lunatic fringe and you're ok labeling them all as Nazi racist violent niyjobs. If 100/1000 BLM/Antifa protestors are murderous but jobs, can we label them all murderous thugs? If 100/1000 islamists are murderous jihadis that run people down with trucks can I label them all terrorists?
If my choice of a demonstrative fraction pisses you off beyond belief you must be emotionally feeble and it's no wonder that statues and flags are so upsetting to you. Since you are so easy to anger does that mean all Antifa/BLM types are also short tempered? Maybe instead of trying to delete or revise history you should focus your energies on seeking mental health treatment. Unfortunately my NY state governor has ended almost all funding for mental health programs (even ordering minors housed with adults in care facilities) and instead chooses to spend those dollars trying to seize firearms. As I understand it, all firearms owners are murderous racists.
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Uhm, who is triggered when those statues and flags go down so they feel compelled to start sinister rallyes, wave nazi flags and shout nazi paroles, just because some people remove symbols of hate and racism? It's not exactly suave southern gents trying to preserve precious memories of glorious times, is it? Does southern charme require these symbols to summon the spirit of their home or are they resorts of chauvinism going extinct?
The vast majority of protesters weren't Nazis. Most were there to protect history, or defend the memory of their ancestors.
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Yea, heard that one before. Totally decent people would walk with an aggressive mob of skinheads, waving swastika flags, showing the nazi salute and shouting stuff about getting rid of the jewish plague. You definitely do not believe that. And what history or memory do they protect? Google this: most of those monuments in question nowadays were set up long after the civil war, to show Jim Crow that maybe he wasn't a slave any more, but definitely not an equal citizen, as a daily reminder. That#s why it probably still hurts black people every single day to see them. These monuments only memorize what's bad about the south, what even a majority of the white southern people doesn't want to glorify. Generals like Lee or Jackson are only famous because they led the south. Without the civil war, there'd be no memories and thus no monuments.
How is "every historical figure" erased? What about the slave holders Washington and Jefferson? It's acknowledged that their role in american history is defined by way more than that isolated fact. Also even when there are much better examples to blame Al Sharpton for dubious statements and actions, calling him a "head racist" sheds a pretty bright light on you though. If he is demanding to take down the Jefferson memorial, there will be enough people on the liberal spectrum to respectfully disagree. Picking one of the biggest loudmouths out there as an argument may seem like a smart move... when you're not that smart.
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And who is exactly is trying to take away any of these flags?
Nobody is trying to take those flags. I was just sharing. Without Washington and Jefferson we might have to pause for tea every afternoon. Did you know that those irresponsible white men also failed to brush and floss on a regular basis?! That's disgusting. It was fairly common in their time to hold slaves or indentured servants. While morally repugnant it was unfortunately legal and I believe that judging the founding fathers by today's standards is ridiculous. I cannot use Rev Al as an example? The left seems to pick the most absurd examples they can to define anybody that leans to the right. I just thought I would play by their rules. What bright light is shed on me for calling a bigoted old anti-Semite man that hates white people a racist?
Because we've become exclusive in our attempt to be inclusive. Ww3 has been averted. China did as they should've and told NK that if they attack the US they will see no protection from China (but they will back them if US attacks unprovoked)
That has been China's stance for the past 50 years though. All they did was reiterate their stance. They only ever made a defensive pact with NK.
So how is that China doing the right thing? When all they did was say "we'll do the same thing we would have done".
I'll give them credit for voting for the sanctions.
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There may be people on the right that proclaim themselves Nazis, but the brown-shirts have thrown their lot in with the left.
I have no problem with that flag. It serves as a reminder of what can go wrong. To others it symbolizes the belief that they will stand and fight when backed into a corner. Slavery was not the sole issue that led to the split. Look up the taxes imposed on the south by northern legislators in the 1830s, it was likened to the taxes levied by King George that finally sparked the American Revolution. The south believed they were once again fighting tyranny. They did not realize that they were pawns in a deadly game.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States_Air_Force
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States_Navy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States_Marine_Corps
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States_Army
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_flag
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_take_it
http://www.flagsimporter.com/usa-thin-blue-line-flag-3x5ft-poly?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgcq-zILh1QIVkDZpCh2OpAmmEAQYASABEgL19PD_BwE
Just some flags that are important to me and to my family.
So how is that China doing the right thing? When all they did was say "we'll do the same thing we would have done".
I'll give them credit for voting for the sanctions.