Chinese traditional dresses are the same as Vietnamese ones (they do share a few similarities), they were designed for slim women from the start
And neither of us are interested in changing the way the dresses work just bc of the body positivity movement
But wear what you want anyways, don't ask me if you look good though cause I won't feel bad for making you cry
If someone wore a kolt (Sapmí people clothing) I wouldn't get mad about it. It has a certain cultural value, yes, and it should be treated with respect, but other than that? Go for it, guys. Some Sapmí people (idk what we're called in english) will get pissed that you're wearing it without being Sapmí, but you know what? It doesn't matter what they think. This is YOUR clothes. Not theirs. Sure, those kind of clothes are a part of our culture, but the ones you have belong to YOUR wardrobe. They can't tell you what to do with your own stuff.
Frankly it's ridiculous how some people act like the clothes other people own and wear belong to them somehow. It's fabric, and it's made to be worn, so why should it matter who it is wearing them?
I think that some would think it's disrespectful. If someone dressed in a culture's traditional clothing just because they think it would be funny, then nah. They shouldn't be wearing it.
On the other hand, if they are respectful and simply want to experience the culture, go for it.
I get bummed out when people dress up as native Americans just as a joke, or when someone wears a kimono because they think its funny.
Well, if they make the clothes into a joke, I could understand feeling bummed out about it, but most people who wear these kind of things have an appreciation for the culture/clothing, or dress up as in a costume. (My friend for example cosplays several Japanese characters who wear kimono)
I’m a white girl who owns a traditional Chinese qipao (same dress in question), but it was 1.)bought for me by my Chinese boyfriend 2.)in China on a trip to meet his family. It doesn’t matter if you have experienced the culture for yourself or if you have admired from afar for however long, as long as you are respectful and understand the meaning of its beauty or integrity, go for it. That goes for whatever piece from most any culture. I’d say the majority of the time it will all be okay if you put in the effort to show your respect and appreciation of the significance. Honestly, respect is key, forget the people who tear you down otherwise.
Just don't adopt something which is an entire lineage of some people for one night just because you look cool in it. IT. IS. DISRESPECTFUL.
You want to adopt my culture or want to know more about it, I would be more than happy to help you. But for that, you should have respect towards it, not because of, "Oh but look how cool I look in this *insert any traditional/cultural thing* and throw it away the next day.
But you shouldn't have to research fashion history to wear something that's not sacred ( like religious garb ). Do you know how many people I see who did ZERO research wear stuff to ren faires and larps for a couple days of fun ? Yet no one gets mad at that unless it's about historical accuracy and even then it's not an issue unless someone tries to claim their outfit is 100% accurate ( but that's more for accuracies sake than being mad someone is wearing something from another culture )
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If you didn't read it clearly, I said, respect it. I didnt said anything about researching stuff.
Sorry if I misread, I thought by saying " Just don't adopt something which is an entire lineage of some people for one night just because you look cool in it. " and " You want to adopt my culture or want to know more about it, I would be more than happy to help you " that meant you wanted people to research it first. I've seen people say you need to do extensive study on a culture and the history of the outfit before even thinking of asking someone to wear it, my bad though.
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I am just saying that I would be the first person to help you out with anything regarding my culture. The only condition being, please respect it.
@spookykink57 I’m afraid I agree that you are giving mixed messages here. Can you give an example, maybe?
What’s a way someone would dress that would be disrespectful to your culture?
How should they go about knowing how far they can go before crossing the line?
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Alright, suppose you are a foreigner. You want to don a sari/saree.
One, wear it in a traditional sense, you would look majestic.
Two, show interest in it. Don't just wear it for the sake of it. Look lively. Trust the people who are helping you and keep a person from that culture to help you?
Three, just be a decent human being. It's not that hard.
There are some awkward moments when trying to know each other's culture, there is no doubt there. But, it can be tolerated as long we are not being assholes about it.
I don't know what the American culture is, while trying to get to know it, there would be a hell lot of awkward moments and I would expect you to forgive me as I respect it and I am showing genuine interest in it. I would do the same.
Is it still shabby? Or am I making myself clear? Please let me know
And I am saying that I disagree, they don't need to actively be trying to adopt your culture to wear a dress. (It's a good suggestion though, I suppose, people can learn new stuff from new cultures).
If I image search Kapil Sharma I can find images of him wearing formal and casual attire that is traditionally Anglo. He is, in some pictures, doing so in a sloppy and unkempt way. Does this comprise the same disrespect towards my culture?
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I am just saying that be respectful to other people's culture. I am not saying that don't dress up like my people or use something from my culture. I am not trying to hoard something here. Just don't ridicule a culture. Geez. That's what literally everyone is saying, that's what I said previously and that's what I am saying now. Dress up from whichever culture you want, just be respectful towards it.
Kapil Sharma dresses up sloppily even in traditional attire. It doesn't mean that he is meaning to disrespect his culture as well.
And neither of us are interested in changing the way the dresses work just bc of the body positivity movement
But wear what you want anyways, don't ask me if you look good though cause I won't feel bad for making you cry
Frankly it's ridiculous how some people act like the clothes other people own and wear belong to them somehow. It's fabric, and it's made to be worn, so why should it matter who it is wearing them?
On the other hand, if they are respectful and simply want to experience the culture, go for it.
I get bummed out when people dress up as native Americans just as a joke, or when someone wears a kimono because they think its funny.
Every straight dude on Earth: "Nope... that's cool... we don't care".
We say things to your face
You want to adopt my culture or want to know more about it, I would be more than happy to help you. But for that, you should have respect towards it, not because of, "Oh but look how cool I look in this *insert any traditional/cultural thing* and throw it away the next day.
What’s a way someone would dress that would be disrespectful to your culture?
How should they go about knowing how far they can go before crossing the line?
One, wear it in a traditional sense, you would look majestic.
Two, show interest in it. Don't just wear it for the sake of it. Look lively. Trust the people who are helping you and keep a person from that culture to help you?
Three, just be a decent human being. It's not that hard.
There are some awkward moments when trying to know each other's culture, there is no doubt there. But, it can be tolerated as long we are not being assholes about it.
I don't know what the American culture is, while trying to get to know it, there would be a hell lot of awkward moments and I would expect you to forgive me as I respect it and I am showing genuine interest in it. I would do the same.
Is it still shabby? Or am I making myself clear? Please let me know
Kapil Sharma dresses up sloppily even in traditional attire. It doesn't mean that he is meaning to disrespect his culture as well.