Good and evil are very subjective unless you take the whole of humanity into account. If you look at it with the lense of humanity, then morality is what our genetic traits indicate us to be. For example, our genetics make us social creatures, so traits that encourages the advancement of humanity is moral. Murder prohibits said advancement, and therefore is immoral.
If you look at the universe as a whole, then morality is a stupid concept. It's a good thing that we humans are inherently self-centered and look at us though.
I love being evil tho
If I were an actress (and when I was in class drama club), I'd always play the baddie
Cause then I can be as horrible as possible and suffer from zero consequence
Why? Please state your reasoning in 2-3 paragraphs. I'm of the belief that if you can't explain why it's wrong, then you are simply being influenced by society to change your own thoughts.
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Thanos is clearly still hung up that nobody listened to his ideas when his race went extinct and is projecting that flawed ideal on a much grander scale to compensate, making what may have started as a simple, desperate suggestion to save his people into a crutch to fuel both his ambition and his egomaniacal obsession with feeling like the outspoken, thankless hero he clearly sees himself as. He's not a hero, he's just bitter and has serious hang-ups. If he was thinking clearly, he would see that the gauntlet offers a lot more to him than just genocide. We see him use the gems in creative ways proving he has the mental capacity to think of such ways, but he chooses not to because he's transfixed on his ideal that nobody listened to so long ago.
Yeah I've heard it before, creating more resources would cause more problems blah blah. The Infinity Gauntlet could fix all those problems just as easily and creating more resources is not the only way I can think of to humanely deal with having
Thanos is angry with himself for not saving his race when he had the chance. He isn't upset with anyone else.
Thanos doesn't have an ego. If he had an ego, then he would have sat on his throne when he met with Gamora. Furthermore, his throne was a very old, very broken, and very gray throne. He doesn't enslave the universe either. He didn't even let the universe know he existed. That's not what an egocentric man would do.
He indeed very bitter about not doing what he thought he needed to do when he had a chance. This is his motivation for doing it to the universe. "I have ignored my destiny once. I will not do it again..."
Creating more resources is the exact opposite of what Thanos sees he could do. As I said, he knows his destiny. His destiny was to save Titan, his home planet, by killing half the population. His destiny has come around once more, and he plans to do it in the same way.
Not to mention that Titan had plenty of resources. They were a highly advanced race of people that lived in near perfect peace. They had all the resources they could have ever wanted with all the technology to get more. Yet overpopulation still overtook them for one reason or another. This likely cements Thanos's belief that killing half the population is the best solution as more resources didn't help the first time.
You should also be aware that, in Thanos's mind, he isn't killing half the population: he's saving half of it.
-I fully believe Thanos would be angry with himself for that very reason. He may not be upset with his people for not listening to him, but he is still upset that they didn't even if he's focusing that frustration on himself as his own shortcoming.
-I disagree. Thanos sat on his throne plenty in the face of those he saw as lesser than him such as Ronan. He even talks down to him as such. I believe Thanos, in his own fucked up way, does care for Gamora. Otherwise, I don't think the Soul stone would have given itself over to him. The movie also makes a point to give us some 1 on 1 with Thanos immediately after the snap. With nobody else to put on a facade for, he clearly expresses some remorse or at least sadness in what he felt he had to do to retrieve the stone. He mourns for Gamora, just as Mantis said. Of course he wouldn't sit on his throne. Gamora had just told him how much she hated that chair. Thanos doesn't see her as lesser or even as a minion. He sees her as a
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daughter. He addresses her as such and clearly still sees her as having a childlike mind, hence calling her "little one" and sitting down to be more eye level with her when speaking to her. In regards to him not enslaving the universe, I see what you mean but as I've said, Thanos seems to enjoy on some level the idea that he's a thankless hero that must bear the responsibility nobody else will do. That's not subtext, that's text. He knows nobody will thank him for it, though he says he wishes to watch the sun rise on a grateful universe. Meaning he's not looking for individuals to praise him, so much as he wants to praise himself for being the hero he thinks the universe needs. That's why I believe he has an ego. While he may not look for others to fuel his ego, he nontheless gets his own little ego boost whenever he does things that a thankless hero might do. One line in particular comes to mind, where he calls himself a survivor. He presents this as something very
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matter-of-fact, as if he's just stating some known truth, but it sounds more to me like he's patting himself on the back. Thanos doesn't look for ego-boosts from others so much as himself. Think of someone that would rather prove themselves right than spare someone's feelings. It's the self-satisfaction he desires, hence why part of his whole mission is to basically prove that his idea was right all along.
-I'm glad we agree on something, but just because someone has clear motivations doesn't make them in the right. Bar none, Thanos is the most nuanced and interesting villain in an MCU movie. Period. He's also my favorite villain, but I'm an asshole ego-centrist myself and I know how his type operates. He's a villain I love to hate, especially if he uses some bullshit excuse like "destiny" to excuse the things he does.
-Pretty much what I said above. What Thanos believes his destiny to be doesn't mean shit to me. He has plenty of other clear motivations that he supports with
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his iron-clad will alone. He doesn't need the destiny crutch.
-That's simply false. The only information in the film we're given about Titan is from the titan's mouth himself. "Too many mouths, not enough to go around." That's not just some throwaway line. He follows that up with him offering the solution to their extinction. Clearly they didn't have enough food, at the very least.
-Then he's insane.
We're all just trying to survive in a bitch of a universe.
If you look at the universe as a whole, then morality is a stupid concept. It's a good thing that we humans are inherently self-centered and look at us though.
If I were an actress (and when I was in class drama club), I'd always play the baddie
Cause then I can be as horrible as possible and suffer from zero consequence
Yeah I've heard it before, creating more resources would cause more problems blah blah. The Infinity Gauntlet could fix all those problems just as easily and creating more resources is not the only way I can think of to humanely deal with having
Do I get points deducted for not sticking to the paragraph format?
Thanos doesn't have an ego. If he had an ego, then he would have sat on his throne when he met with Gamora. Furthermore, his throne was a very old, very broken, and very gray throne. He doesn't enslave the universe either. He didn't even let the universe know he existed. That's not what an egocentric man would do.
He indeed very bitter about not doing what he thought he needed to do when he had a chance. This is his motivation for doing it to the universe. "I have ignored my destiny once. I will not do it again..."
Creating more resources is the exact opposite of what Thanos sees he could do. As I said, he knows his destiny. His destiny was to save Titan, his home planet, by killing half the population. His destiny has come around once more, and he plans to do it in the same way.
You should also be aware that, in Thanos's mind, he isn't killing half the population: he's saving half of it.
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-I disagree. Thanos sat on his throne plenty in the face of those he saw as lesser than him such as Ronan. He even talks down to him as such. I believe Thanos, in his own fucked up way, does care for Gamora. Otherwise, I don't think the Soul stone would have given itself over to him. The movie also makes a point to give us some 1 on 1 with Thanos immediately after the snap. With nobody else to put on a facade for, he clearly expresses some remorse or at least sadness in what he felt he had to do to retrieve the stone. He mourns for Gamora, just as Mantis said. Of course he wouldn't sit on his throne. Gamora had just told him how much she hated that chair. Thanos doesn't see her as lesser or even as a minion. He sees her as a
-I'm glad we agree on something, but just because someone has clear motivations doesn't make them in the right. Bar none, Thanos is the most nuanced and interesting villain in an MCU movie. Period. He's also my favorite villain, but I'm an asshole ego-centrist myself and I know how his type operates. He's a villain I love to hate, especially if he uses some bullshit excuse like "destiny" to excuse the things he does.
-Pretty much what I said above. What Thanos believes his destiny to be doesn't mean shit to me. He has plenty of other clear motivations that he supports with
-That's simply false. The only information in the film we're given about Titan is from the titan's mouth himself. "Too many mouths, not enough to go around." That's not just some throwaway line. He follows that up with him offering the solution to their extinction. Clearly they didn't have enough food, at the very least.
-Then he's insane.