Let's have a friendly debate
by the_grinch · 17 comments 5 years ago
deleted · 5 years ago
No
deleted · 5 years ago
...buddy
the_grinch · 5 years ago
What's worse: Saying the N-word or literally saying "N-word"
1. By saying the foul word you are deliberately insulting that person or persons. You have zero shame
2. By saying "N-word" you are self censoring and therefore acknowledge that it's a racist slur
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P. S. I am in no way encouraging the use of the word. I myself find it aweful and shouldn't be said, but I've heard people say both versions and was curious as to everyone elses thoughts on the matter
sublimegamer · 5 years ago
Reminds me of that one Yogscast clip https://youtu.be/pUHBA6qL_rU
bethorien · 5 years ago
It's needless censorship. If one is saying it to avoid saying the actual word in a discussion its needless censorship of something no one should take offense to because its a discussion not an insult. If you are using it to replace the actual word in a statement or meme or post or whatever the intent and meaning is the same as tho you were using the actual word and as such just as bad making it meaningless censorship. Either way its pointless
deleted · 5 years ago
Wait does context matter for saying “N-word”
Like let’s say someone has to do a witness police report or something and has to tell officers what happened to cause a fight
The witness says the “N-word” not the actual word but the censoring of it because someone else said the real one. What then?
bethorien · 5 years ago
That's further needless censorship is it lowers accuracy of the record and would be actively discouraged in a court of law
deleted · 5 years ago
I’m not completely sure about your original question tho
I’d say the actual N word is worse if we have to label one as worse instead of equally saying both are bad
deleted · 5 years ago
Btw so happy guests can’t talk in chats
the_grinch · 5 years ago
Let me clarify: if someone was using one of those words as an insult. Would it be worse to call them the word or censor yourself?
bethorien · 5 years ago
Neither holds worse connotations as they hold the same meaning and intent
guest_ · 5 years ago
As an insult I would say it’s equal, with an insult is isn’t so much the words used that matter but he intent of the speaker and the impact on the listener. Using specific words allows one to better evoke and impress the emotional state they wish to convey on a listener, but in the abstract, removed from specific reaction, they are eaqual. On a specific level it depends on the person hearing the insult. Overall- either way you are acknowledging it is a slur. You wouldn’t use it as an insult if it wasn’t a slur or insult to you. If you want to insult someone and so you call them a Nazi- The assumption Nazi would be an insult implies an understanding that Nazi’s suck. A Nazi wouldn’t think Nazi’s suck. So you’re use of even a word which is not technically a slur as an insult shows your mindset. Therefore, regardless of wether you self sensor or not, the use of the word as an insult has shown a persons character. For instance- an old school Italian may call another a “goomba”....
guest_ · 5 years ago
... goomba is a anglicized perversion from Italian. An Italian may call a good friend a “goomba,” even in a mocking fashion such as “This stupid goomba here...” or as an insult “cheap goomba..” and this is generally socially acceptable. However, used by organized criminals it implies an accomplice or criminal associate, and when used by non Italians it was traditionally a racial slur that derived from the criminal element of its expression and implied that Italians were all by nature criminals or thugs. So we can see an example where within a culture, a word can be used for endearment or insult acceptably, but when used by others outside that culture, the history of the word makes it innapropriate for use as a term of endearment or in any non historical context. The use outside the culture of “goomba” implies a racial slur to most, but again it is subjective, many younger Italians would be unaware of the term and many older Italians might not care- it’s on the individual to decide.
mrsuperman8942 · 5 years ago
weeb
hyperion · 5 years ago
I dont have time for peoples feelings I'll straight up say the word if I have to.
mrsuperman8942 · 5 years ago
if you say the actual n-word without an n-word pass you get killed by skipper and the gang.
bethorien · 5 years ago
A lot of natives say it in the same context that black people would and its always confused the fuck out of me