1. The figures are widely available, look them up.
2. I never blamed guns, but it should be obvious to anyone how guns make killing people easier and so result in a higher homicide rate.
2. Even using your sources, the US still has a homicide rate 5 times that of the UK.
4. Texas' decrease in gun deaths occurred after the introduction of carry laws, yes arming everyone in a society filled with guns will slightly increase safety, but on average unarmed societies still have far lower homicide rates.
5. You have provided one study which indicates that increased gun ownership increased whilst murder rate decreased, a quick google search indicates that pretty much every other study indicates the opposite; more guns means more gun deaths.
6. America only comes 34th in murder rate due to third world countries, compared to other developed nations the US is one of, if not the, highest in murder rates.
7. Cherry picking much?
least he gave some sources, multiple ones I might add. Whereas your response was basically "guyz dats not tru. The dataz is everywhere showing thats false. Just look it up lol"
When the evidence in favour of a certain position is overwhelming, the burden of proof is on the one trying to disprove it. The simple fact is the evidence is overwhelming that societies without guns are safer, all the cherry-picked data in the world won't change that.
I read somewhere that in London you are twice as likely to suffer being beaten and robbed than almost any major industrialized city. I wish I could cite the article, Daily Telegraph or some goofy British publication or another.
With any media, particularly Brittish papers and especially the Daily Fail, you have to be careful with those sorts of reports. All too often they are poor reports on weak studies, make conclusions that even the authors didn't reach and often turn out to be funded PR pieces.
guns themselves do not kill people there are a tool for killing all manner of things including food and like any other tool they can be misused.
the isue with the way other countries look at the us when it comes to guns is most countries excluding a few arnt half the size of the us hell you can fit abor 3 uk in texas if ir rember corectly while this may seem irrelevent to the gun discusion it isnt because the us has so much land and such a large area the level of control over fire arms like we see in smaller countries isnt fesable while I will be the first to say that the murder rate ger is stupidly high i will make the conjecture that if it wasnt for good honest people who arnt homicidal maniacs carrying the rate would be far far higher becausr the criminals would have them anyway.
tl;dr yes the murder rate is high but do to the us's size gun control isnt really feasible
This is much more like it.
For colleges.
I understand schools not having this, but could we at least have two (minimum) armed, trained, and fit guards become a requirement?
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I'd also like you to explain to me why and how it is the fault of the guns when in Washington DC, where hand guns are outright illegal, the per 100,000 homicide rate in 2012 was 13.9 and in Texas it was 4.4. In Vermont, a state that has nearly no gun control, it was 1.3.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
In the past decade, several gun control laws expired and there are decidedly more guns in the US now than there were ten years ago. A 2011 survey reports that ownership is at its highest since 1993.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/150353/self-reported-gun-ownership-highest-1993.aspx
Explain then why the murder rate for Texas dropped from 5.9 in 2000 to 4.4 in 2012.
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A Congressional study covering about 20 years, (94-09) showed that ownership in the US nearly doubled and the murder rate halved.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/03/Congressional-Research-Service-More-Guns-Less-Crime
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
And yet, the United States ranks 34th in the world for murder rate.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate_by_decade
Care to explain that?
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You can decry the gun bogey man all you want, but the data doesn't support it. It's the people.
2. I never blamed guns, but it should be obvious to anyone how guns make killing people easier and so result in a higher homicide rate.
2. Even using your sources, the US still has a homicide rate 5 times that of the UK.
4. Texas' decrease in gun deaths occurred after the introduction of carry laws, yes arming everyone in a society filled with guns will slightly increase safety, but on average unarmed societies still have far lower homicide rates.
5. You have provided one study which indicates that increased gun ownership increased whilst murder rate decreased, a quick google search indicates that pretty much every other study indicates the opposite; more guns means more gun deaths.
6. America only comes 34th in murder rate due to third world countries, compared to other developed nations the US is one of, if not the, highest in murder rates.
7. Cherry picking much?
the isue with the way other countries look at the us when it comes to guns is most countries excluding a few arnt half the size of the us hell you can fit abor 3 uk in texas if ir rember corectly while this may seem irrelevent to the gun discusion it isnt because the us has so much land and such a large area the level of control over fire arms like we see in smaller countries isnt fesable while I will be the first to say that the murder rate ger is stupidly high i will make the conjecture that if it wasnt for good honest people who arnt homicidal maniacs carrying the rate would be far far higher becausr the criminals would have them anyway.
tl;dr yes the murder rate is high but do to the us's size gun control isnt really feasible
For colleges.
I understand schools not having this, but could we at least have two (minimum) armed, trained, and fit guards become a requirement?