Hitler was a Catholic and Catholics and Christians are as different as Catholics and Jews. They might believe in the same god, but vastly differ in how to avoid hell. Why would his fellow Catholics be given special treatment? You should look up how many of his idealized blonde-haired, blue-eyed Germans he killed. No matter your background, if he disagreed with you, you were only worthy of death.
Guest, you realize that Catholicism is a denomination of Christianity, they aren't separate religions, therefore the part at the beginning about Catholics and Christians being as different as Catholics and Jews is incorrect because you cannot compare an entire religion to a denomination of a religion, especially for the first statement, where you compared Catholics to Christians, you were comparing Christianity to a denomination of ITSELF. If you are Catholic you are Christian you cannot be Catholic and not be Christian, as Catholicism is not a religion it is a denomination within a religion. So Hitler, being Catholic, is therefore Christian.
Mary was just a woman, the pope is just some guy, good works have nothing to do with getting into heaven, you confess your sins to Christ alone and praying to "saints" is the same as praying to false idols, making doing so a sin. How much more different can core beliefs be? Catholicism is an off-shoot of Christianity just as Christianity is an off-shoot of Judaism. All three are completely different. Get yo facts straight!
I never said anything relating to the first part of your comment, and I never said Christianity wasn't an offshoot of Judaism or Catholism being an offshoot of Christianity. What I'm saying is Judaism is a Religion, Christianity is a Religion, Catholism is not a Religion, it is a Denomination, a part of a Religion with certain beliefs, your religion gives beliefs, the Denomination of which you are a part is what goes into further detail and such. Catholism, Methodism, Baptist, all of those are denominations, I am not arguing with you about which came from which, it may seem like it, my point was supposed to be that Hitler WAS Christian, as he was Catholic, and Catholism is PART of Christianity, not separate from it. I was also debating where you said "Catholics and Christians are as different as Catholics and Jews", because that isn't true, Catholics believe what Christians believe, because Catholism is part of Christianity. A denomination isn't separate from religion but a part of it.
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The Protestant Reformation was what made Christianity and Catholism so different. They are not the same religion.
They are the same religion, it's a denomination of a religion. Catholism is a PART of Christianity, not the other way around, if you are Catholic you are Christian, but being Christian doesn't make you Catholic, the Protestant Reformation did not split it into different Religions, but different Denominations! Protestants are Christian, Catholics are Christian, they are Denominations of a Religion! I learned this in Middle School, High School, different Church events I have done, the Priest at my Church talked about it today! Catholism is NOT a Religion, it is a Denomination OF a Religion! A Denomination is not a separate Relgion but a group within a Religion that have certain beliefs.
Edit 1: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholicism
Edit 2: "The Catholic Church, the largest Christian denomination with roughly 1.2 billion members—slightly over half of all Christians worldwide—is the world's second largest religious denomination after Sunni Islam"
Those are proof I'm right
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You're right that Catholism came out of Christianity. However, Catholism is vastly different to Protestanism. It's so different that you can even say that they do not believe in the same god. For Christians, the way to Heaven is only through Jesus' death and God's forgiveness. For Catholics, there is the option of Purgatory and salvation can be bought by works and holy living. (Also, try to use a more reliable source. Not Wikipedia)
Lol, I don't care who you've talked to, if the Catholic god is the real god, all devout Christians will go to hell. If the Christian God is the real God, all devout Catholics will go to hell. This is because each faith's most irrefutable dogma condemn the other to burn for all eternity for their false beliefs, BECAUSE THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT RELIGIONS! You cannot dance around this fact no matter how much music your schools, church and priest play!
@Guest, what proof and sources can you give me that tell me that they are completely different Religions, unlike toothpastetaste who is giving me stuff supported with evidence, you are telling me stuff that could be considered opinion, acting like it's a proven fact, and not giving any evidence to support your claim. You think your right then prove it, and if you can't prove it then you are wrong.
Not necessarily because not all religions define how salvation is determined, Christianity does not explicitly define this, it only defines basic beliefs, a reason for the creation of Non-Denominational choices. Christianity as a whole only defines what the Bible says, one such thing is how Jesus was crucified by Pontius Pilate and the Romans, the Bible never says how salvation shall be achieved by man, and Christianity doesn't go further into this, the Denominations however do, each denomination goes further into what they believe will achieve them salvation, as no Holy Text actually gives any explicit evidence or statement to how salvation shall be achieved, and as such that is left to individual people to decide, the Denominations are groups of people with similar beliefs in how to go further into the basic beliefs of a religion. However I can't justify it completely as there are many different religions go into various different depths of the beliefs of that religion
To continue my previous comment, religions such as Islam and Judaism don't have these different sects believing different thing as the religions themselves go into great detail about the beliefs, Non-Denominational Christianity, does not, often times Non-Denominational Churches are made because people don't share similar beliefs to a Denomination or to allow different people of different beliefs within a religion to worship without having to find a church to serve all of their beliefs, if a religion doesn't go into great detail about something or doesnt explicitly define something as true or false, than there isn't really anything to stop people from believing different things or disagreeing with one another.
Hitler was atheist - he only pretended to be religious to appease the masses who were predominantly Protestant. He did practice some Christian rituals like Christmas, but he was not truly Christian. I hate this repost because Hitler, who's truly an atheist, is used to counterbalance Christianity.
TL;DR - Find a true Christian who was evil.
@steam maybe you should actually read a bible before making assumptions like that. "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."-Romans 10:9 It's very clear what a Christian needs to do to become saved.
First you could have just replied to my comment directly, secondly I didn't say no detail, I said small amount of detail, a small amount of detail doesn't mean the detail isn't clear nor vague, when I said small amount of detail I meant that it doesn't excplicity say that all you have to do, the Bible has been changed throughout history, and was written after Christ had ascended back into heaven. The church has changed its beliefs numerous times, and not all denominations, including non-denominational Christianity follow the Bible word for word. Also I was previously aware of that passage, it is a clear piece, but it's one sentence
You said "not explicitly" and that one sentence is quite explicit. Often, as one reads the bible, a single sentence is a 'great' enough detail to convey an entire aspect of life.
"[Hitler] is generally believed to have been skeptical of religion, but opportunistic and shrewdly aware of its influence on politics. Raised by an anti-clerical father and practising Catholic mother, Hitler was baptised and confirmed in the Roman Catholic Church as a boy, but became hostile to Catholicism in adulthood...In practice Hitler's regime persecuted the churches, and worked to reduce the influence of Christianity on society."
Per Wikipedia
So, like many atheists, he was forced to go to church as a child and later rejects God. But, because he went to church with his mommy prior to being able to decide for himself, some @$$hole decides that he represents "Christianity."
We also have to ignore that Christians and the Bible reject all those things that are held up as examples of "bad belief," but the Koran and Islam and its adherents *support* their bad actions. I haven't seen Islamo-terrorism condemned by Moslems...they ask to not be judged for it, But no condemnation.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GJY8jJkDoMY
(no Rick roll, I promise)
Edit 1: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholicism
Edit 2: "The Catholic Church, the largest Christian denomination with roughly 1.2 billion members—slightly over half of all Christians worldwide—is the world's second largest religious denomination after Sunni Islam"
Those are proof I'm right
http://catholicbridge.com/catholic/are_catholics_christian.php
http://christianity.about.com/od/denominations/p/catholicprofile.htm
Also I never said Catholicism and Protestantism weren't vastly different, I am not trying to argue that. The ONLY point I am arguing it that they aren't different Religions, they are Denominations of Christianity
TL;DR - Find a true Christian who was evil.
Per Wikipedia
So, like many atheists, he was forced to go to church as a child and later rejects God. But, because he went to church with his mommy prior to being able to decide for himself, some @$$hole decides that he represents "Christianity."
We also have to ignore that Christians and the Bible reject all those things that are held up as examples of "bad belief," but the Koran and Islam and its adherents *support* their bad actions. I haven't seen Islamo-terrorism condemned by Moslems...they ask to not be judged for it, But no condemnation.