Honestly, these people are a form of terrorism. They are spreading illnesses across millions of people. Thousands of people have likely died and tens of thousands more are going to. These people are unintentionally commiting terrorist acts. If I dropped a bomb designed to spread polio to an entire population, then I would be called a terrorist who needs to be put down. They do the equivalent unintentionally.
You have a right to yourself, that's true. But getting vaccinations are important to the survival of the entire country - especially when our population has swelled so much since they were invented (And said invention being a major factor in why we were able to reach this population of nearing 8,000,000,000 people). Calling them a terrorist is a bit extreme as they aren't intending to do any harm, but they are doing it all the same. We need vaccines to be mandatory.
The gov't should never have the legal standing to force otherwise healthy people undergo medical procedures.
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You’re right, they shouldn’t, but they should be allowed to make education mandatory, and to for example allow daycare centers to reject uncaccinated children
I'm all about compulsory vaccinations
Mainly because a child should not suffer just because her/his parents are ignorant. It's the same as scholarization being mandatory
And not only that, you are putting in risk people around you by potentially spreading diseases, not to mention the place where you are putting people with inmunodepression. If a kid with leukemia is next to flu he can be severely affected
@bukuIf they aren't vaccinated then they aren't healthy people. They are a threat to themselves and to society. Their freedom to choose an early death via treatable illness doesn't supercede my right to live a long life. How many more babies do you think deserve to die from diseases that could have been treated and prevented before we make vaccines mandatory? My ideal number is zero, but that number was broken long ago.
My point is educated people will understand this danger and have their kids vaccinated by choice. Unfortunately there must be an element of natural selection.
We punish people for involuntary manslaughter. That's the accidental murder of another. It doesn't matter how this was done. If it was a car accident or if it was tripping on the street and having someone fall over you causing them to break their neck.
So, why should the involuntary murder of babies allowed and even allowed to be encouraged? These people are walking bio-bombs. I'm not saying they should be arrested because it should never be allowed to get to this point.
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@spiderwoman I think you meant to respond to @buku in your first response, right?
Since 1988, the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program has paid out nearly 4 billion dollars to those injured and killed by adverse reactions. If you want to give your child 40-50 shots by the time they turn 18, go right ahead. You guys want to use force of government to impose your medicinal preferences on all other people. That is incongruent with a free society. People fought very hard for the liberty we enjoy each day. It's unconscionable that you are willing to permanently surrender that precious freedom of choice for everyone.
It's also congruent to a free society to prohibit me from publically saying that I plan to murder the president and all left handed people. Some freedoms have to be restricted for other freedoms to be protected. My right to live and be safe from disease is above your right to not get vaccinated. Not getting your children vaccinated is murdering your own children at worst and is being extremely negligent at best.
If you disagree, then surely you'll agree that my right to kill you is protected by this free society? Not letting me express myself wouldn't be congruent to a free society after all.
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So, I should stay off the road so your drive is safer?
And here we have our proof that not all guests should get accounts.
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@buku you would be the guy protesting against making seatbelts mandatory back in the day too, wouldn’t you? After all, that’s also the government imposing on your own freedom of choice. What’s more, not wearing a seatbelt only harms yourself, not others, so it’s even worse than vaccines!
You’re right, there have been many studies on the dangers of vaccines. Know what those studies found? That vaccines almost never pose a threat to human beings (except if they have some very rare disease, like I think @mrscollector’s daughter has), and that they work.
Yes due to my daughter's health problems when she was born they gave her her first shots and she reacted very badly. They almost kept her in the hospital due to it. So the doctor said with age she maybe be able to take the shots. So we waited till she was 6. But she had monthly to bi monthly check ups. And every cut, scrape, cold, or rash was checked by a doctor that whole time. When she turned 6 the doctors ran some test to see if she can take the shots. And they said she could so they pumped her full of them. She was such a trooper. Most kids get 2 to 4 shots at most at one time she got 14 that day. The only problems she ended up with is a rash and she felt sick to her stomach.
But if I had to do it again I would do it the same.
So yeah only not get the shots if a doctor tells you to and if so do monthly check ups.
You have a right to yourself, that's true. But getting vaccinations are important to the survival of the entire country - especially when our population has swelled so much since they were invented (And said invention being a major factor in why we were able to reach this population of nearing 8,000,000,000 people). Calling them a terrorist is a bit extreme as they aren't intending to do any harm, but they are doing it all the same. We need vaccines to be mandatory.
Mainly because a child should not suffer just because her/his parents are ignorant. It's the same as scholarization being mandatory
And not only that, you are putting in risk people around you by potentially spreading diseases, not to mention the place where you are putting people with inmunodepression. If a kid with leukemia is next to flu he can be severely affected
So, why should the involuntary murder of babies allowed and even allowed to be encouraged? These people are walking bio-bombs. I'm not saying they should be arrested because it should never be allowed to get to this point.
If you disagree, then surely you'll agree that my right to kill you is protected by this free society? Not letting me express myself wouldn't be congruent to a free society after all.
But if I had to do it again I would do it the same.
So yeah only not get the shots if a doctor tells you to and if so do monthly check ups.