Coincidence? I don't think so

There's no legitimate precedent for cam girls and such to dodge taxes in any higher percentage than any other legal source of income

Most of them do though. When the thot audit hit, they posted screencaps of their tax ... documents? (English isn't my native language and I frankly have no idea what you call those) on Twitter as proof. The whole thing really is just incels being incels.

Tax returns are probably what you mean, and if they pay then fine. If they don't, they can have fun with the IRS.

Yeah as far as I know there are some bad seeds in there who don't, and it's completely fair for them to be exposed (pun intended), but the ratio isn't any higher than in any other profession so the attack on them was mostly baseless.

The targeting was probably pointless, yeah, but the action itself is justified.
Malicious compliance ftw.

Waste of resources and government time to sift through a bunch of baseless reports of tax fraud that just get deleted immediately because there isn't any useable proof nor any usable reason to investigate further.

That sounds like business as usual, I'm not concerned.

They are wasting public resources in a futile attempt to make as many people's lives harder as they can simply because they are worthless cunts that are pissed they can't get any. They are garbage people doing garbage people things and are trying to hide behind "oh im doing my civic duty" as an excuse to not get flak for it.
These worthless cunts should get arrested for false reports as they know damn well what they are doing and are doing it with malicious intent but that would be too much of a waste of time to fuck with.

I doubt you're in a position to have any real insight in to the operation of their minds.
Way to invalidate any argument you had.

Their intent is stated all over the fucking internet mate. Look up from your fantasy world where these people are doing what they think is right and look at the facts. They post about this shit all over the place. Their intent is clear. Their reasoning for what they are doing is clear. They spell it out in their forums discussing it among themselves.
Willful ignorance is a cause for concern.

The thot audit isn't solely being carried out by incels, dipshit.
They're not even the ones who conceived it.

It was started by slightly less stupid cunts at 4 chan. Who started it doesn't function as an excuse as to those that are doing it. And its almost only incels that are doing it. The rest are just a different flavor of fuck wit.

@garlog- I get where you’re coming from and you make a valid point- but I don’t see it applying here. Bethorien is speaking specifically on those who are doing a “thot audit,” not on people legitimately reporting tax fraud that happens to be perpetrated by women who make money in certain ways or have a certain public image. Targeting a industries or contractors statistically likely to not report taxes, like internet merchants, isn’t wrong per se. but combining that targeting with pejorative language indicates malice, that one isn’t doing it out of good intent but spite to a group. Secondly, and more importantly- while one can legitimately target a group for review to try and find tax evaders, simply reporting someone for tax evasion because of their job, or in other words reporting a person for a crime simply because who they are or what they do makes you think they are probably a criminal, but without any proof or reasonable suspicion of criminal activity- IS a waste of public...

.... resources. In order to have serious reason to suspect these women of tax fraud one would need certain information. One would need to know perhaps how much their total monthly income was, and have some idea of their monthly expenses on a running basis so as to indicate mathematically that they could not afford the expense- however without knowing what credit is available to them, one can’t know that they aren’t simply poorly managing their finances with a huge debt on minimum payments unless one knows what assets they have in liquidity. So one needs to know their bank account information, to do math on wether they could possibly make a minimum payment on purchases when subtracting taxes from publicly reported income, and still maintain a savings that is increasing at an anomalous rate. That or have evidence of tax shelters being used illegally such as illigitimate fleeing acclubts or investments, investment fraud, shielding assets, etc. so bethorien isn’t saying anyone reporting...

A woman for tax fraud is a slime ball, but that anyone reporting any other human being for tax fraud, or any other crime, who has no serious reason to believe a crime was committed, but instead is doing so out of obvious malice and spite, is doing society a disservice.

"its almost only incels that are doing it."
How do you know that?

I don’t believe that was a factual statement- I believe they were stating their opinion that a man who would specifically target such a group of women for unbacked allegations of fraud amounting to what is essentially harassment- and by the use of the pejorative “thot,” are, even if not materially demonstrable, in theor personal opinion are, insecure and bitter, with such feelings stemming from negative interactions or perceptions of females due to social reaction to their behaviors.

That depends largely on how you define contributing to a society. Also I'd argue fapping to a picture of an unknowning/unwilling participant is not the same as paying someone for pics of their body

The only thing sports does is prove that one team or person does nothing of importance more capably than another person or team. Without an audience any sports event becomes largely pointless. People pay money to watch something they are not actively a part of purely as a form of entertainment. The only reason people are so quick to demonise sex workers is because society says it's bad and because it's considered to be easy work even though it's really not. If we're going to demonise people for using their bodies to make money, we have to at least demonise EVERY ONE using their bodies to make money

@guest_ imma drag you over here because you may have a better answer to this than I would.
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But you talk about entertainment like it's not a cornerstone of society. Lots of people play sports without being watched. They don't get paid for it, but they still do it. With their friends, family, random people they've encountered who also like sports. Almost every week in the spring/summer/fall there's two soccer teams who gather in the community field not far from here. Not a damn person ever shows up to watch them. And they play anyway.
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Sports are an outlet. For energy, for aggression, for frustration, for fun, for skill. Any number of things. And outlets are insanely important to anyone trying to function. So saying they don't matter is the equivalent of saying sleep doesn't matter or vacations don't matter or laughter doesn't matter. It doesn't make sense, and it's simply not true. O.o

Also, literally every single person in existence uses their body to make money. Some people use it in a much more physical sense, but everyone uses their bodies.
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I'm not sure when you turned this into a debate about whether we should be demozing sex workers or not. If that was the point of your original comment it went way over my head, and has absolutely nothing to do with my response since I was never advocating for demonizing them to begin with.

Whether or not nobodies play sports without an audience doesn't actually effect the position in function of people that are famous that play sports.
The function of famous sports people if for people to stare at them while they do their thing often making noises at a screen that the person on it can't hear.
The function of cam girls, porn stars, etc is for people to stare at them while they do their thing often making noises at a screen that the person on it can't hear.
They are equal in point and equal in how useful the individual is.

Sports does more than that, especially at the amateur level. It teaches camaraderie if it's a team sport, self-reliance if individual; strategy, tactics, gambling, bluffing, etc with both... basically warfare-lite. It has uses... and that's before we get started on practice.
You'd have to actually play instead of just watch for that lesson to sink in.

what sports does at any level other than famous sports does not effect what function famous sports serves to society. At all. It doesn't matter if playing sports teaches you life skills. almost everything does including sex work and that doesn't effect what it function the position serves for everyone else. It doesn't matter if it serves as an outlet for the individual playing the sport. almost everything does including sex work and that doesn't effect what function the position serves for everyone else.
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At the end of the day both positions are to get money for being the object of other's attention and fascination and to provide entertainment.

So it couldn't be considered art even? Sorry, but in basketball, knowing when to spring a 1-3-1 full court trap in an NBA game, or "Skip Too My Lou" crossing someone in an And1 game IS art. In football, knowing when to run a flea-flicker, a fake punt, or an engage eight blitz and then executing it to perfection? That's art. You ever wonder why it's considered martial art and not "ways to kick your ass"? It's so much more than what's shown on the surface... when it is executed flawlessly, it's truly artistic.
That was an add-on to my reply, not a direct reply at you @bethorien

as for the original comparison, not really. Difference in price... and most likely willingness. I doubt you'd be able to convince Dirk Nowitzki to fuck a random chick for $500.... I'm confident that I can find plenty of sex workers who'd fuck a random chick for $500... and ironically the easiest ones to convince would most likely be her closest female "friends".

Price doesn't matter. A minimum wage street vender and a 60k a year chef serve the same function to society.
The statement of "doubt you'd be able to convince Dirk Nowitzki to fuck a random chick for $500" is meaningless.
It doesn't matter if he would be willing to do the stuff a sex worker would do. It doesnt matter if a sex worker would be willing to do what he does.
It doesnt matter if there is art in the execution of the activity. Their function in society doesnt change. What they do in reference to the people that watch them which in turn funds their continued ability to do said job doesnt change.
No matter how masterfully they do the things they do they are only paid to do what they do because they are objects for the interested parties to stare at. They are a distraction. They are literally nothing more than a source of entertainment based on their physical prowess. If no one watched they would have to get a normal job like everyone else. Their pay check is completely based..

on their continued ability to draw views. A cam girl or a porn star etc's pay check is completely based on their continued ability to draw views.
You so far have only made statements that don't actually have any relevance to what their function in society is. No matter how you paint it pretty after all the fluff has been stripped away they are the same thing. Objects of other's attention and fascination and entertainment to past the time.

Ty for taking a point we weren't talking about and injecting it into the conversation for no discernible reason? Neither of us were talking about celebrity sports exclusively-- or at least that was certainly never distinguished.
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And them playing it without people watching directly did address a point me and the op were talking about. They claim nobody plays sports unless someone will watch them doing it. That is simply not the case. The fact that we're willing to pay certain people to watch them do it does not change the fact that people often play by themselves or in groups, without any audience.
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I also never claimed there weren't similarities between sports and porn. They literally all fall under the "entertainment" category. Sports, porn, comedy, acting, singing, etc etc etc, all serve the same core function in that regard: someone performs, and if someone else witnesses that performance on some level, they take some measure of enjoyment from it.

One might say porn and sports are much like pigeons and doves-- they can fall under the same family, share similarities, but they are not necessarily the same thing. Unless you only classify them by sweeping generalizations, in which case porn is the same as giving someone a hug, travelling to the moon, and world war II.

The entire point of this comment chain is that exclusively famous sports players and sex workers share a function in society. Whether or not you actively derailed it to make your point stronger doesn't effect the point of the discussion

You know what?
You're absolutely right about that being the original point. So I apologize on that front. Also I probably sounded bitchier (read: like a git) than I meant to.
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This is not sarcasm. Idk how to make myself sound not sarcastic