So are suggesting "toys" also lead to sex trafficking, because that is what my comment was addressing, regarding guests idiotic comparison.
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Hahaha @celticrose to SOME extent I agree- I wouldn't be caught dead using a sex doll, but why is it that suddenly men aren't allowed to use in-animate objects for sexual gratification? Personally, I say to each their own. As long as it's behind closed doors and it's not hurting anyone, you literally do you.
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But the equivalent statement for women is: if a woman is so incapable of handling human interaction that she needs to use a plastic penis to get off, I figure the gene pool is better off. And I'd be willing to bet a LOT more women have vibrators and other such 'toys' than men who have dolls.
I was referring exclusively to the mindset referred to in this post, where its implied that because they have a sex doll they have no need for a human partner. Yes, if a female felt the same way the same concept would apply. If a partner's only value/purpose to them is as a sexual reseptical than everyone is better off without them in the dating +/- gene pool.
Please note: this comment will add nothing of value to the conversation you guys are having, just general dialogue on the topic at large on my part.
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I've actually asked a few men their thoughts on the whole sex-doll-replacing-relationship shtick. While they have differing opinions on whether they'd use a sex doll at ALL, pretty much the consensus so far has been they don't find it overly appealing and aren't interested in a simulated relationship
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As an aside, I think comparing vibrators to a humanoid doll is a little uneven-- and also unnecessary as there are definitely sex dolls for women as well. I'd say vibrators would be more comparable to fleshlights
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@Xvarnah fair enough
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@Celticrose I'd be interested to hear your commentary on using fleshlights then.
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Also, food for thought, just sharing a point of view, but google the term "MGTOW". And DON'T get lost in all the misogyny that has become associated with it. Just look at the core, dictionary definition of the term, where it came from, why it came into existence, and tell me what you think.
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At this point in time, I'm MGTOW- and I have no idea if I'll ever be returning to the world of the living, and ever be ready to re-enter into a healthy long-term relationship with women. I'm not important in this, I'm using myself as an example. Now, I reiterate, I wouldn't be caught dead. But I wouldn't be-grudge another dude going MGTOW his usage of a doll, if that was his thing, and assuming he was living the lifestyle for healthy, personal reasons.
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Just my $0.02
I agree with @Xvarnah comment about it fleshlights and vibrators being different, aside from the fact they can be used with someone, they are just masturbatory aids. A full on sex doll/robot (for male or female) is different in that it is replacing, if only in their mind, an actual partner. And the more realistic those become the more unhealthy the disconnect between the reality and artificial can become.
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TLDR: sex toys and masturbation is healthy and normal. Sex dolls as a surrogate for a partner is not.
Idk if you were talking to me about the MGTOW thing but I'm afraid I have another boring response about it: it sounds like something some men and women have been doing for forever. Except women usually get negative connotations added onto it like "spinster" and "cat lady" etc. I don't think choosing to be out of a romantic relationship is a thing that people should feel is abnormal or being in one is required. However, choosing to be by yourself is different to me than implying a doll could replace interaction and a full relationship with a living partner.
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Additionally there's the chance a sex doll could actually cripple a person's ability to be intimate with someone if they choose to use it regularly and exclusively for an on-going period of time and then try to get back into a relationship with a human partner. Which doesn't mean they can't get/use one, people just need to be sure to think through what they're doing
why are people so against sex toy/doll? (and obviously it's true cause read the comment)
it's safe, quick, easy to handle compared to one night stand.
and even in relationship, sometimes your partner is not for it (they got low sex drive, is an asexual, etc) so instead of masturbating, you fuck a sex doll, what's wrong with that?
are you that insecure you think a sex doll can replace you? are you only there for sex?
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the only complaints i have is that sex dolls are so ugly...
@snowpanther "Not permitted"
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"The only person my girl is allowed to speak with is me, no texting or talking to other guys or anything. Not permitted".
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Can you follow those rules? If not, then you seriously need to re-think your life. And if your man sees this, we got some HUGE red flags here bro. Get out while you can.
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@Rosalinas because people are hypocrites and because some crazy b*tches are concerned about the destabilization of their power over men in their unhealthy relationships, because sex is all they bring to the table
Woah, even I haven't been called a lunatic!
You should be proud, snow (although it's not something normal people be proud of but I don't think you're very normal) (bc normal people don't get insecure over sex dolls)
im not insecure over sexdolls. insecures not the right word. the only thing my boi should be able to interact with is me. and yes in case you ask, id be fine with those terms as well.
@shikharizard when did I say they didn't exist? I didn't say they didn't exist <.< I'm pretty sure I said I don't associate with them.
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I've actually had a guy tell me he'd love to keep me prisoner in his bedroom before. You're going to be shocked and appalled to learn he was, in fact, a creep
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I'm just pointing out the fact that psychos like this masterpiece are out here walking around, looking normal and shit and not being committed.
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This chick makes Rosalinas look normal.
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If he was a creep wtf do we classify this work of art?
Tbh I don't have an issue with people establishing they don't want to have something like a sex doll in their relationship. Forbidding someone from having one is impossible. All you can do is say "this is not a behaviour I want to be part of my life, so if you want ME to be part of your life, you won't engage in this behaviour." Again I don't equate sex dolls with vibratory, I'd consider them more on par with flashlights, but if the other person then says "well then no sex toys whatsoever" it's then up to you to decide whether that's a stipulation you can live with. Pretty much like drug use, pornography, a fetish, someone working in a particular industry, etc etc etc.
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Saying you would KIDNAP someone is something else entirely, as is saying you'd *enjoy* it if they cut you open. At that point we're reaching Harley-quinn levels of dysfunction, and I'd honestly be more concerned for the guy if he ever says he wants to break up, as that would be the time acting out on any of this
@shikharizard lol "You" is a show on Netflix about a guy who sees a girl in a bookstore and basically becomes obsessed with her, staging meetings, inserting himself into her life, and rationalizing completely insane behaviour
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@Rosalinas right.. thanks for proving my point. Normal is definitely not what you are- I stand corrected.
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@Xvarnah Admit it, that was a good joke, even for me and my repertoire of stellar humour. And I seeee, I remember hearing about that one when it was new. I never got around to watching it.. just like all the others
@shikharizard idk. You wouldn't admit to appreciating the puns until recently. I think you're going to have to work a bit harder before I admit that.
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I actually thought it wasn't bad. It didn't lose my interest entirely within the first episode, so that says something. Whether it would be up YOUR alley is something else entirely
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@Xvarnah jokes aside, I appreciate like 1/45 of your puns. They're bad AND they're painful. I don't mind if you never admit it ;)
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I'll give it peek if/when I find time, which henceforth is going to be scarce. Tell me more about YOUR alley
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Sorry, you literally lined that one up.
@shikharizard now, isn't denial supposed to come BEFORE anger? You're doing the phases in the wrong order
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Too much time spent getting massaged by Jesus. (<- if you haven't read my reply to your other comment this is going to make a hilarious lack of sense).
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Tbh I was half expecting you to make it about *your* alley, but then you turned it around
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@Xvarnah literally nobody is denying that your puns are awful? What on earth are you talking about? And haha, think about what you know about me. I make my jokes for me, I couldn't be bothered who enjoys them
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No, I read it, and it really was a divine massage. 1 hour on 1 day doesn't qualify as time wasted though -_-
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And who on earth cares to know more about my alley - which, under the context of this joke, does not exist. Tell us everything there is to know about yours though. I'm mesmerized ;)
@shikharizard first you got mad at them, then you accepted them, now you're moving on to denial <.<
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Was.... Was that a pun?
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And I wasn't saying it was WASTED time. You just said you wouldn't have much time
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Ohhh I think under the context of this conversation you very much do have an alley. What you're talking about is the driveway or such. Alleys go around back
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@Xvarnah >.>
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So it was.
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Don't make this difficult too mama-bear, otherwise I might pull into your driveway, and I wouldn't even think about pulling out ;)
Oh how the mighty have fallen
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But at least now you know what "alley" I was referring to. Also I have no idea if that counts as another pun but I'll concede it made me snort
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"Fallen"
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It was meant to be punny - and while I can assure you it would make you do MUCH more than just snort.. I know that may be the biggest concession I ever get from you, so I'll take it ;)
Climbed down willingly?*
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I didn't realize I was so stingy with my concessions all this time
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As a side note I find it kind of entertaining that tomorrow someone's going to click on the updates to this and think "ohhhhh shit went DOWN" or something and then just see this random ridiculousness on our parts instead
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Stingy AF.
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I was just thinking the same thing. On all three threads. I'm just enjoying the rhythm tbh. Once I'm finished responding to one, the next is ready, and so on haha
Haha indeed. At first I was like "I JUST RESPONDED HOW IS IT ALERTING ALREADY" but it's entertaining. Maybe not as good as a massage from Jesus, but it'll do
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It was fun, but I have to call it a night.. i have to be up at 5 going forward, so this should be fun... can you imagine the messiah returns and the first thing he does is runs his hands all over you. Is that why they call it the 2nd coming? ;)
I'm well aware. But if your reference is going to be Jesus Christ giving a massage.. after that everything Jesus related is fair game. And with me you better expect some criminal creativity.
sex dolls are the opposite of what we need as humans. like the actual exact opposite. prostitution in its own is flawed in the way that it's too much about sex and too little about psychological benefit. what we need, if anything robotic, are robots psychologists. we need more compassion and understanding, not more sex. sex as an act doesn't do anything to help us as humans.
but yea by all means, buy sex robots, go ahead. i believe human race is way overdue on its own path to extinction anyway.
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But the equivalent statement for women is: if a woman is so incapable of handling human interaction that she needs to use a plastic penis to get off, I figure the gene pool is better off. And I'd be willing to bet a LOT more women have vibrators and other such 'toys' than men who have dolls.
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I've actually asked a few men their thoughts on the whole sex-doll-replacing-relationship shtick. While they have differing opinions on whether they'd use a sex doll at ALL, pretty much the consensus so far has been they don't find it overly appealing and aren't interested in a simulated relationship
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As an aside, I think comparing vibrators to a humanoid doll is a little uneven-- and also unnecessary as there are definitely sex dolls for women as well. I'd say vibrators would be more comparable to fleshlights
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@Celticrose I'd be interested to hear your commentary on using fleshlights then.
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Also, food for thought, just sharing a point of view, but google the term "MGTOW". And DON'T get lost in all the misogyny that has become associated with it. Just look at the core, dictionary definition of the term, where it came from, why it came into existence, and tell me what you think.
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At this point in time, I'm MGTOW- and I have no idea if I'll ever be returning to the world of the living, and ever be ready to re-enter into a healthy long-term relationship with women. I'm not important in this, I'm using myself as an example. Now, I reiterate, I wouldn't be caught dead. But I wouldn't be-grudge another dude going MGTOW his usage of a doll, if that was his thing, and assuming he was living the lifestyle for healthy, personal reasons.
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Just my $0.02
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TLDR: sex toys and masturbation is healthy and normal. Sex dolls as a surrogate for a partner is not.
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Additionally there's the chance a sex doll could actually cripple a person's ability to be intimate with someone if they choose to use it regularly and exclusively for an on-going period of time and then try to get back into a relationship with a human partner. Which doesn't mean they can't get/use one, people just need to be sure to think through what they're doing
it's safe, quick, easy to handle compared to one night stand.
and even in relationship, sometimes your partner is not for it (they got low sex drive, is an asexual, etc) so instead of masturbating, you fuck a sex doll, what's wrong with that?
are you that insecure you think a sex doll can replace you? are you only there for sex?
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the only complaints i have is that sex dolls are so ugly...
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"The only person my girl is allowed to speak with is me, no texting or talking to other guys or anything. Not permitted".
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Can you follow those rules? If not, then you seriously need to re-think your life. And if your man sees this, we got some HUGE red flags here bro. Get out while you can.
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@Rosalinas because people are hypocrites and because some crazy b*tches are concerned about the destabilization of their power over men in their unhealthy relationships, because sex is all they bring to the table
You should be proud, snow (although it's not something normal people be proud of but I don't think you're very normal) (bc normal people don't get insecure over sex dolls)
Woah, talking about toxic relationship.
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@Xvarnah see, girls like this actually exist...
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I've actually had a guy tell me he'd love to keep me prisoner in his bedroom before. You're going to be shocked and appalled to learn he was, in fact, a creep
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This chick makes Rosalinas look normal.
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If he was a creep wtf do we classify this work of art?
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Saying you would KIDNAP someone is something else entirely, as is saying you'd *enjoy* it if they cut you open. At that point we're reaching Harley-quinn levels of dysfunction, and I'd honestly be more concerned for the guy if he ever says he wants to break up, as that would be the time acting out on any of this
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And now all I can think about is the guy from "You."
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Awww all you can think about is me? That would be so sweet if we weren't posting about how this chicks cray cray
I'm absolutely beautiful
Get an eye check or something with the doc for once.
"Normal" is an insult to my type!
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@Xvarnah Admit it, that was a good joke, even for me and my repertoire of stellar humour. And I seeee, I remember hearing about that one when it was new. I never got around to watching it.. just like all the others
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I actually thought it wasn't bad. It didn't lose my interest entirely within the first episode, so that says something. Whether it would be up YOUR alley is something else entirely
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I'll give it peek if/when I find time, which henceforth is going to be scarce. Tell me more about YOUR alley
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Sorry, you literally lined that one up.
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Too much time spent getting massaged by Jesus. (<- if you haven't read my reply to your other comment this is going to make a hilarious lack of sense).
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Tbh I was half expecting you to make it about *your* alley, but then you turned it around
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No, I read it, and it really was a divine massage. 1 hour on 1 day doesn't qualify as time wasted though -_-
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And who on earth cares to know more about my alley - which, under the context of this joke, does not exist. Tell us everything there is to know about yours though. I'm mesmerized ;)
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Was.... Was that a pun?
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And I wasn't saying it was WASTED time. You just said you wouldn't have much time
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Ohhh I think under the context of this conversation you very much do have an alley. What you're talking about is the driveway or such. Alleys go around back
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So it was.
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Don't make this difficult too mama-bear, otherwise I might pull into your driveway, and I wouldn't even think about pulling out ;)
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But at least now you know what "alley" I was referring to. Also I have no idea if that counts as another pun but I'll concede it made me snort
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It was meant to be punny - and while I can assure you it would make you do MUCH more than just snort.. I know that may be the biggest concession I ever get from you, so I'll take it ;)
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I didn't realize I was so stingy with my concessions all this time
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As a side note I find it kind of entertaining that tomorrow someone's going to click on the updates to this and think "ohhhhh shit went DOWN" or something and then just see this random ridiculousness on our parts instead
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I was just thinking the same thing. On all three threads. I'm just enjoying the rhythm tbh. Once I'm finished responding to one, the next is ready, and so on haha
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Oml, we got you started and now you can't stop lol
but yea by all means, buy sex robots, go ahead. i believe human race is way overdue on its own path to extinction anyway.
Y I K E S
Also, I wasnconfused for a while at "what's it?" Ive never seen the question written like that