For the rest of you:
*Casual sex is far more dangerous than having (a) partner(s) you love and trust.
*Kids and animals are not valid orientations
*There's nothing wrong with saving your firsts for your forever person, and some forms of chastity can be rather fun
*Monogamy is inherently superior for raising healthy families, and if you ever try to shame someone for wanting to be monogamous, I'm revoking kneecap privileges.
*Masturbation can be healthy if done with common sense in moderation. And don't listen to anonymous strangers trying to tell you one way or the other about hell. It's your immortal soul, not theirs.
I've actually not really encountered many pastors who say you can't have sex for pleasure... they just tend to encourage you to do it with one partner, and that partner be someone you're willing to stay with forever. Which is kind of not a terrible goal considering the consequences of sex can be a tiny human being dependant on you for everything, or a disease that could kill you or forever limit who you have sex with in the future etc
And I'd say the dead and mentally ill are not valid orientations either. But that aside, if you want to practice your sexual orientation, at this point, unless we're in Palestine, nobody's stopping you from sleeping with any other consenting adult. What you CAN'T do is dictate to a religion that they MUST preach your orientation as good or what have you. You may be able to argue it under the confines of whatever is known about that religion, but bullying any religion into reciting your mantra destroys the religion, it doesn't make you accepted under it.
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The rest is coming to terms with the fact that - to that religion - your sexual orientation may not be valid. And you either sort out how to practice your faith in spite of that, or you abandon it altogether. If a pastor believes your sexual orientation may be a danger to your soul then it's kind of hard to say they're wrong for warning you if you come to them. But they also don't need to attack anyone for what they're doing either
What did I say that could possibly be construed as coming from atop a high horse?
Is being responsible and safe so far removed from what you people want and expect that it's considered arrogance? Is it wrong for me to expect my partner to not have other men, as I don't want other women? Is it wrong to exclude they who cannot consent from the hook-up pool? Is it wrong to remind people that children are almost exclusively created by dances of intimacy? Do you think it's wrong for a person to only take to bed those they love or at least trust? Or do you simply take offense to people being reminded that they do not have to, and really should not, take advice concerning their soul's fate or mere existence from text posts by those who have no stake in their life, beyond a potential near anonymous fling?
It's been a few days, so of course the above would start something. Well, gotta give credit that he lasted this long. (He probably doesn't hear that often.)
Ah yes, the "shitty personality" guy has something to contribute, and it would be deflection, no less. Someone should also inform him that it's rather difficult for people to be alone (as he wished on me) when others keep showing up.
It's weird how hateful the "tolerant" are these days.
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Anyway, spastic flailing aside, something I always find kind of interesting is people make posts like these, but they never actually seem to touch on WHY a particular religion might be preaching something
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Half the time, even if you don't follow the religion, you can find practicality woven into the core of a lot of (not all) the rules that may be preached.
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Doesn't necessarily mean you can't find another way to live, but not necessarily the best choice to discount the reasoning entirely
@famousone
*Casual sex can be safe sex. Partners can cheat and give you STD's.
*Only you would instantly think about pedophilia and zoophilia in the context of sex. Please get help, you are obviously repressing something and it's bad for you.
*Yes, here's nothing wrong with saving your firsts for your forever person, and some forms of chastity can be rather fun just ask the BDSM community.
*Literally no one is shaming anyone for monogamy. Is this about your trans thing again?
*I think your faith in an immortal soul is very nice.
*Casual sex is far more dangerous than having (a) partner(s) you love and trust.
*Kids and animals are not valid orientations
*There's nothing wrong with saving your firsts for your forever person, and some forms of chastity can be rather fun
*Monogamy is inherently superior for raising healthy families, and if you ever try to shame someone for wanting to be monogamous, I'm revoking kneecap privileges.
*Masturbation can be healthy if done with common sense in moderation. And don't listen to anonymous strangers trying to tell you one way or the other about hell. It's your immortal soul, not theirs.
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The rest is coming to terms with the fact that - to that religion - your sexual orientation may not be valid. And you either sort out how to practice your faith in spite of that, or you abandon it altogether. If a pastor believes your sexual orientation may be a danger to your soul then it's kind of hard to say they're wrong for warning you if you come to them. But they also don't need to attack anyone for what they're doing either
Is being responsible and safe so far removed from what you people want and expect that it's considered arrogance? Is it wrong for me to expect my partner to not have other men, as I don't want other women? Is it wrong to exclude they who cannot consent from the hook-up pool? Is it wrong to remind people that children are almost exclusively created by dances of intimacy? Do you think it's wrong for a person to only take to bed those they love or at least trust? Or do you simply take offense to people being reminded that they do not have to, and really should not, take advice concerning their soul's fate or mere existence from text posts by those who have no stake in their life, beyond a potential near anonymous fling?
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Anyway, spastic flailing aside, something I always find kind of interesting is people make posts like these, but they never actually seem to touch on WHY a particular religion might be preaching something
.
Half the time, even if you don't follow the religion, you can find practicality woven into the core of a lot of (not all) the rules that may be preached.
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Doesn't necessarily mean you can't find another way to live, but not necessarily the best choice to discount the reasoning entirely
*Casual sex can be safe sex. Partners can cheat and give you STD's.
*Only you would instantly think about pedophilia and zoophilia in the context of sex. Please get help, you are obviously repressing something and it's bad for you.
*Yes, here's nothing wrong with saving your firsts for your forever person, and some forms of chastity can be rather fun just ask the BDSM community.
*Literally no one is shaming anyone for monogamy. Is this about your trans thing again?
*I think your faith in an immortal soul is very nice.