Also not address the issue that if the lives of these kids are so worth it, why do you not care that their lives are badly ruined when people decide that she shouldn’t be allowed to abort? Is the baby being alive more important than the baby being born into a terrible life? With that logic because a life has value should we not put down a pet that is suffering endlessly? Would you rather let people suffer if it meant that they both live? If a boy gets raped and the woman that raped him gets pregnant is he now gonna be forced to pay child support? You can be pro life and not pro forcing a rape victim child to ruin her life and bring a child into an inevitably horrid life. Life isn’t black and white or else we wouldn’t even need courts would we, ah what a shit world we live in

Yes while I agree babies deserve to live all I’m saying is these things need to be reviewed on a case by case basis. I get why people are pro life, if you read a comment below you’ll see that I’m against abortion FOR MYSELF being a keyword here. But the process DOES pose a significant risk. Even for grown adults birthing has left my friends and family with permanent mental and physical health conditions and these are babies they wanted. If you just look only at the physical strain that a child has to go through for 9 months itself without being able to live her life normally that itself is pain enough. Let’s not even talk about how her reproductive organs have barely just started functioning, how a baby exiting her especially if they had to perform a cesarean would leave her with with all sorts of complications on top of the mental pain. The question is why do you think that a ball of cells that could POTENTIALLY be a human is of the same value as a child that’s alive? Why do you..

I assumed he was eating at the establishment and took an absent minded bite while paying, also I have no idea what happened I was just trying to figure out a possible explanation as to why someone would forget. I still think it’s stupid that he immediately went to “someone bit my sandwich cause I’m a cop”

That’s just it though, at a certain point that fetus isn’t someone at all without the organs, the brain the capacity to feel or think or any of it and you fail to see that. Yes it has the potential to be life if carried to term with that being said so does every sperm or egg in a human being and I highly doubt you cry over every wank/period depending on what you have. And what I’m saying again is that I am giving you medical and social cons to the child carrying a baby and all you are saying is one life is as valuable as the other. Which is basically saying because I say so. You know why? Value is something entirely personal. Something I value won’t be the same as something you value because we don’t have the same values. While it’s not the fault of the baby, the logical thing to prevent more harm from coming to the child carrying the baby and the potential future of that baby who almost certainly won’t have a good life would be to prevent the baby from being carried

I’d rather you choke me

Cats

Hey it’s adorable now too :p

Even this I can agree with, I personally wouldn’t think it’s morally right for MYSELF to be aborting a baby after carrying it to term. I would’ve in that situation gotten pregnant cause I had sex and I would’ve had all the opportunities to have prevented the birth during and right after having sex but if I still carried the baby for another 6 months or something and got buyers remorse, for me, I just wouldn’t be able to abort a baby at that stage and think that it was right. But this is not that situation. You CAN be pro-life and not pro this

Is it equally valuable when you are ruining the lives of two children as opposed to trying to fix the life of one child who has now been through unimaginable trauma and prevent even more harm from coming to her? I don’t even know what value means to you anymore or what arguments you have for anything that I have said so right now this is as bad as me saying here is scientific and social reasons as to why that poor girl should be able to have an abortion and you’re just going “no, because I said so”

Horrible life are you condemning that poor child to. Humans are strong but how much love could you REALLY provide a child that you know was a product of so much pain and suffering on you. So now the baby has to be adopted out and if that was a perfect system we wouldn’t have all these horror stories by adopted kids and foster situations. God forbid if the child gets depressed about not having a family and tries to find out where she came from and actually learnt why she’s alive. Even if she doesn’t imagine the mental health issues of feeling abandoned by ones parents. So nice now you have a fucked up 11 year old and a fucked up child of that 11 year old. Congratulations you’ve made the world better by forcing YOUR PERSONAL views on someone else’s life.

Because pickles are pickled in vinegar

I love pretty currency, we should do a country substance and share things about our countries