Your dad sounds like a wise man.

If each of you had the power to snap your fingers and immediately eliminate all future oil production on the planet, would you do it?

It also appears that internal gas engines are on the decline as electric replaces them. Horses, on the other hand, appear to holding steady in relevance.
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How does that go......you either die a hero or...

Who would be the "bad" guy in the food scenario?

Karl, like famousone said, there is no evidence that the covid vaccines prevent transmission.
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You're right that a lot of vaccines in the past have eliminated (or close to it) the intended diseases.
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Covid vaccines are effective similar to what we've known historically as flu shots. It comes down to this: Covid vaccines do not change the risk of death for anyone except the person who is vaccinated.
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There are a lot of "science" claims to the contrary but I have yet to see anything other than shoddy surveys to back it up.

Frog, do you believe that covid 19 would go away if everyone gets the vaccine?

Some helpful advice when choosing role models is this: reject anyone who says that you or your "people" (whatever that means) are victims and vote for them so they can save you.
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Instead, find the people who tell you to take your power back, and to take so much personal responsibility for your own life that you are able to help other people do the same.
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The latter is where you'll find a meaningful life. The former feels good at first but fades as fast as the dopamine after someone gives your FS post a thumbs up :)

There will be some people who recognize this leadership vacuum and step into campaigns with the message of fighting for our rights and freedoms. No amount of vote tampering will be able to stop that wave, and that will be the start of swinging the pendulum back the other way.

I believe the thing holding the United States firmly in place is the decloration of independence, the bill of rights, and the constitution. The structure of those charters of freedom continually point the power back toward the people. The only way it can be overthrown is to convince the masses that it should be overthrown. And the easiest tell that an overthrow is beginning is the silencing of voices. Wrong or dangerous opinions should be understood and debated, but never silenced.
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This cancel culture thing that's been happening over the last few years is the largest threat to out freedom in decades.
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You described the tyranny as a slow, and seemingly inevitable takeover. I tend to think of it as more of a pendulum that is currently almost peaked out on the tyranny side. Real protests are happening (not the paid and organized BLM protests from a couple years ago). And real conversations, just like this one, are happening all over the country.

Serious role, and they absolutely can remove rights.
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Regarding vaccine mandates: the governments are taking the easy way out by putting citizens in a position where they aren't "forced" to take a vaccine. They hope to disrupt people's lives so much that they "choose" to get vaccinated. What's even worse about this little trick is that it's forcing citizens "businesses and employees" to enforce citizens "anyone who wants to participate in the economy".
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I think I can help you understand where xvarnah and I are coming from: imagine skipping the chicken $hit misdirection and instead imagine a government directly implementing a vaccine mandate. I.e. use the enforcement sections of government (police and military) to go door to door and inject every eligible citizen. You don't have to go far down that road before it gets pretty scary.
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I believe our mandates in their current form are a step closer to a very slippery slope that has tyranny at the bottom.

Guest, correct me if I'm wrong, but your last 3 paragraphs have a theme of "choice". It's the idea that life is hard, and sometimes we have to choose to walk away from situations, or careers that bring us anxiety. You're right on both accounts.
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Xvarnah and I have chosen to reject the mandates. Our choice to fight them is just as legitimate as your choice to accept them.
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In order for us to learn from eachother, we have to keep focused on the underlying principals and values in play.
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Interestingly enough, the value i'm fighting for is the right for individual choice. I think the ability for individuals to choose, and the preceeding reasoning leading up to that choice is what makes us uniquely human. I believe that the right to choose (and discuss those choices) is THE right that all other rights are built on top of.
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A corporation cannot take away your right to choose because you can always choose to leave the corporation. Governments have a much more....

Karl, those vaccines all provided immunity for the associated disease.
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All of the covid vaccines (so far) are much more similar to what we've commonly called a shot (for example a flu shot).
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The CDC changed the defenition of a vaccine from providing "imunity" to providing "protection" mid covid...... I'll let you come up with a reason why that would be necessary.
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Every single one of the vaccines (exept flu, which is not even close to eradicated) you reference is effective at drastically limiting and even stopping disease transmission. The covid vaccines do not.
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Your argument is true, but you're ladder is up against the wrong building.

@guest_ your language was referring to stopping the spread. There is no 'stopping of covid. Just like all viruses, covid will continue to mutate, and it will continue to be less deadly. It will be with us just like the flu has been for decades (probably centuries).
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The whole concept of "fighting" covid is wrong. We simply need to manage it.
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Regarding how effective vaccines are at minimizing transmission: I don't want to be the person who puts the burden of proof on the other person, but I'm not sure where to go with this. I've searched for hours, and I cannot find any evidence to rationally suggest any measurable change in transmissibility of covid due to vaccination. There are some low volume sample surveys "studies" that imply a difference, but the results vary from 0 to 75% effective. Any accurate scientific study would need to be repeatable with a result range far smaller than 75%. If you know where I can find the real thing, I would be greatly appreciative.

There will be a day when this "pandemic of the unvaccinated" Propaganda loses it's effectiveness and citizens begin to rationally look back at this pandemic outside of the political lense. It will be determined that our global response to covid was much more damaging to the collective quality of human life than the virus ever could have been.

"You do NOT get the choice to put the risk on every person you meet because you do not want to take the risk on the vaccine."
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I firmly disagree with this. There is ample evidence that covid vaccines significantly minimise the risk of death for the vaccinated person. There is no evidence that any of these covid vaccines reduce transmission.
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What you wrote is pure propaganda with the false support of "science".

I count 1 after your post.
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We'll follow your lead on how to determine fact and fiction. I'm all ears....

Your imagination seems intriguing and confusing all at once! Lol

X, I agree with you that vaccine mandates are Orwellian. I disagree that we can't communicate about it. We don't have to play in anyone's spin of the situation. We can define the details in our 1 on 1 conversations.
I've also seen what happens when families get covid. They're ill for a couple days, they're tired for a couple weeks, then they're normal again. It's a mistake to take our individual experiences and assume the rest of the world is the same.

In China, land is technically owned by the government, and it's use is distributed to everyone based on their need.....
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But who decides what they need?
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What I'm suggesting is that you're technically correct. But at the end of the day, the elite still make all of the decisions.