If you wait for it to be out of theaters then you also ruin it. Nobody cares about a movie from two years ago. Movies only leave theaters when they're not making money anymore - when nobody cares.

I can’t say I agree with the logic. People care about many things that don’t make money. A movie leaves theaters when a studio or theater chain has decided it isn’t profitable. Tv shows are cancelled all the time because they aren’t seen as profitable- but you’ll find many people who care about them still. People caring about things taken down for being unpopular is what brought Futurama back, and you’ll still find plenty of people asking for a Firefly or such and such revival for instance. Theaters regularly also show movies over 20 years old. Not having the mass appeal to support wide release isn’t the same as no one caring. By default, for a person to get upset by spoilers, at least one person must care. If you haven’t seen a movie- 2 days or 2 years or 200- it’s still new to you.

There’s a play called The Mousetrap that’s been running continually in London since 1952. It has a twist ending that audiences have famously successfully refused to reveal since it opened. I think if they can manage it for six decades its possible for you to hold back that Thanos is actually just another Iron Man suit for a few months.

I would agree.

Well, granted I only got around to watching Infinity War last weekend, the spoiler timer needs to be rather lenient. The movie came out like 5-6 months ago at this point, the first pirated versions appeared about a month and a half back, the first decent quality version I found a month ago, but it had horrid sound desynch. Next, I knew that the HD version appeared somewhere on the internet, but I didn't manage to find it and I wanted to wait for the movie to be dubbed in Russian as well before watching it, and finally last Saturday I found the HD fully dubbed version that was good enough to watch. And by that point, I had like 30% of the movie spoiled for me, even though I intentionally strayed away from the hype, and only saw a couple of memes on FunSub that gave anything away.

TL;DR: The spoiler timer has to account for the appearance of an HD version, that version becoming actually manageable to find, and that version being dubbed in other languages.
P.S. For movie such massive and hyped up, the spoiler timer needs to be even larger, since it will take a while for people to safely pirate it, since it's such a moneymaker and the pirated versions will take longer to roll around

If the fact that you are using the timeframe that illegal copies become available as a milestone doesn’t bother you it should.

No, it shouldn't. Given how many people pirate movies and the fact that the whole reason movies are being so widely pirated is because they are either too expensive or hard to find for some people. If you want an example on when pirating can be a good thing, look no further than most old game publishers taking down emulators so people can't play their games for good, and buying those games is not only difficult, but also doesn't reward the creators behind the games, since they are not the ones who gain the money from such purchases anymore.
Listen, if I like a music group or a game enough to spend money on it after I already played/listened to it and confirmed it's good, I will do so. But I don't have enough spare money to pay for everything upfront, so I will keep pirating shit regardless of what you think

You seem a little defensive, probably because your reasoning is complete horseshit. A lot of people justify piracy as a victimless crime and that’s up to them; they know it’s illegal and when they get caught they deserve what they get and shouldn’t complain. However, ilegal activity shouldn’t be a cultural norm and considered in discussions like this one. People who legitimately pay for their entertainment shouldn’t be burdened by how inconvient it is for you to steal it. In fact, if you don’t have enough money to pay for the entertainment you want perhaps you could spend less time watching movies and use the time earning money to support the lifestyle you want to have.

Irrelevant. You can buy the movie online or just go to a theater. If you can't afford to do it after months, then you've lost your rights to stay away from spoilers.

@sir_spiderman- I can’t say I agree with the logic. A person shouldn’t lose their rights to a common public courtesy based on their financial situation. Being able to afford to see a movie or not shouldn’t dictate how we treat people. If anything it makes more sense to be kinder if you couldn’t afford to see a movie. I mean, if you save for months and can’t afford to see a movie, I feel like you’ve got enough crap in your life without people spoiling things.

Your own logic is flawed even if made with good intentions. The rights of everyone matter, but you can not make an entire culture stop doing something if only one person is negatively affected. It sucks that they aren't in the current financial status to watch it, but that doesn't mean everyone else has to suffer. If their human rights are not being violated, then the majority of the population should get its way.

To make this clear, if even a single person is having their human rights violated, then I am totally in agreement with stopping billions of people from having what they want if said want stops said human right. Human rights are on another level that stupid desires. But a spoiler just doesn't qualify as a violation of human rights.

No one is making you do anything. You dont make a person give up a seat on a crowded train for a pregnant woman, you don’t make a person hold a door open when the next person has their hands full, and you don’t make a person not swear or use graphic language at a child’s birthday party. These things are courtesies, manners. There is no harm to society if I show up to your wedding as one of the wedding party wearing a shocker t-shirt and no pants. I have no way to know that it wouldn’t make all your guests happy to see even if it ruins it just for you- you’re just one person and I haven’t violated your human rights. Yet- these are somewhat asshole behaviors no? It doesn’t violate human rights to get up at your grandmas funeral and talk about the time she was railed by 6 dudes in a bus station bathroom, but you and many others wouldn’t enjoy it even if no fundamental rights are violated. You can leave the funeral and grieve elsewhere. She’ll be dead tomorrow still. These are extremes,

But they make the point. Just because you can’t afford to live in a gated community doesn’t mean that everyone on your block should do whatever they feel like so long as it doesn’t violate a basic human right. Just because you can’t afford to quit doesn’t mean your job should treat you like garbage. We decide how we behave. Our behavior effects others. Manners and courtesies are simply an extra effort we may or may not take to do a little to try not to impinge upon others abilities to enjoy their lives too. More money means having to extend and rely on courtesy less, but doesn’t mean it’s ok to be an asshole. You have basic rights- like the right to spoil thins for others. But if you enjoy your rights and want them protected, you should also protect the rights of others. Like the right to enjoy a thing without spoilers.

You don't make a person lay down for someone to cross a puddle, you don't push a dozen people on a train track to save one person, you don't kill thousands to save a few, and you don't prohibit people from saying bad words because you don't like them. You're just making complete non sequiturs at this point. A non sequitur is "Planes have wings, therefore pizza doesn't need to be circular". You're taking a scenario where only one person is affected and pretending that's what I'm talking about. I'm talking where literal tens of thousands of people are being silenced.

I’d rather avoid spoiling something I don’t care about but they do for someone else and Vice versa, than a world where I spoil everything for others and they do the same to me. We build the world. It’s up to Each of us to choose the world YOU want to live in. I want to live in a world where I do t need to withdraw from society so that I can enjoy the full impact of a movie like Interstellar when I finally have free time to watch it than to carelessly bumble through life on thoughtless impulses while others do the same and we all crash into each other and fuck everything up for each other. It doesn’t take a lot of effort to not spoil a thing, but can mean a lot to someone. So choose. I have already done so.

You're trying to sound inspirational when you're literal talking about people shutting up about a movie because some people are too poor to watch the movie.

I’ve noticed you seem to have trouble understanding much of what I say. I’m not here to argue, but going forward you don’t have to feel embarrassed. Just please tell me specific instances of things you can’t fully comprehend and I’ll try to explain them in ways you can better understand. I’m not sure how you see examples comparing a person acting in a way that suits them without regard to others, without causing legal harm to others or violating any human rights, to another, as comparing an airplane wing and the shape of a pizza. But I am willing to hear you out and work together to build a bridge of understanding. I’m sure between the two of us we have the skills to do so. As for “people shutting up because other people are too poor to watch a movie..” would it be different if there was another reason besides them being “too poor” for not watching, or is it simply that we are talking about the acts of one person ruining something for another person uneccesarily and carelessly?

I understand precisely what you are saying. It's just that half of it is meaningless dribble and the other half is factually incorrect or otherwise logically fallible.

We're not talking about a single person ruining the movie for one person. This is about one person ruining someone's excitement over a movie they just watched because this one person in tens of thousands hasn't watched it yet even when they have been given plenty of time to do so. After a certain point, you don't have a right to complain about spoilers regardless of the circumstances.

How does it ruins ones excitement to not be able to talk about a movie to someone who hasn’t seen it? Not spoiling a movie for others doesn’t mean you can’t talk about it or be excited, the people you’d be able to talk about it with in any meaningful way are people who already saw it, and hence you can’t spoil it for them anyway. Are you going online, excited to discuss this new movie, then you click a little check box that says “hidden” or write: “spoiler thread” and suddenly- the excitement is gone. It’s ruined for you? Are you saying that for you- the excitement comes from spoiling the thing for someone else, or that 2 seconds of effort ruins the whole thing for you? And as for the dribble and incorrectness- after at least two invitations to give examples you have failed to produce anything. Like a child with their fingers in their ears screaming “la la la.” So forgive me if I don’t take your un cited and un backed up critiques to heart.