It's really funny how all the Trumpets shake their heads at the protesters for rioting, but deep down they know they would act the same, if not worse, if the situation was flipped. Remember how they acted when they thought Clinton would win? They made conspiracy theories about how she had hacked the elections and overall behaved like children, throwing tantrums for not getting what they wanted, but they didn't go full speed ahead because there was still the element of the doubt. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely despise anyone who takes part in those protests because it serves no purpose and does only harm (for example when Ambulance cars can't get through protesters and people actually die because of them), but stop trying to act like the Trumpets would just calmly settle down like nothing had happened if Clinton won. You're fooling no-one.
Obviously. Don't you remember the conspiracy theories the right pulled off, like Pizzagate, Obama is Kenyan (which was still believed even after he handed his birth certificate), Obama is a Muslim, Clinton is literally Satan etc.? Or have you maybe forgotten about the entire alt-right movement? All those sound pretty autistic to me. Both sides have groups of people that have their heads up their asses so deep they've formed their own reality in there, and the whole "us vs them, and we're obviously so much better" mindset helps nothing. This "playing for a team" mentality where one ignores the mistakes of their side and focuses only on the mistakes of the other is exactly why the US is so divided. This is politics, not football, you're supposed to be loyal only to yourself and to facts, not to a shitty team.
"Don't you remember the conspiracy theories the right pulled off, like Pizzagate, Obama is Kenyan (which was still believed even after he handed his birth certificate), Obama is a Muslim, Clinton is literally Satan etc.?"
Proliferating internet conspiracies is a lot easier than gathering hundreds of thousands of people together to yell about how "good didn't win this election" and whatever else. They're clearly entirely different levels of autism.
"alt-right movement?"
That's a fringe movement, and the autists in it are only a fringe within it.
I agree the "team" mentality is stupid, though.
@pokethebear it wasn't nearly as tense of a situation back then, so trying to equivalate that won't really get you anywhere. But there were some protests, and some people even decided to make an Obama hangman, which is very quaint. Anyway one of the reasons why there weren't so many protests back then is imo because right-leaning people are demographically older and therefore would rather sit in front of their TV whining than hitting the streets. Of course, neither approach really gets anything done, on the contrary the protests are actually doing more harm than good, whining doesn't do any harm. But seeing the Trump rallies this year, I don't doubt they wouldn't hesitate to go out in the streets. Another reason might have been the racial sensitivity, aka nobody wanted to go against Obama because he's black and you'd be called a racist if you did that. So there's that. But if you remember the shitstorm before the election, you could see that the Trumpets would do the same as the SJWs.
@garlog You sure? Those conspiracy theories are pretty widespread among the far right. 59% still believe Obama is a Muslim and 41% still believe he was not born in the US. Making them so widespread on the internet, especially among republicans who as I said are demographically older and therefore statistically less tech-savvy than democrats, is not that easy. The people who believe this of course get most of their "knowledge" from InfoWars and similar bs "news" outlets. Which brings me to this question/ponder: while it's true that mainstream news outlets do make shit up and/or take their info from unreliable sources (aka Trump got peed on by Russian hookers which is as bs as you can get), why are they targeted so often and so aggressively when people like Alex Jones with his "Obama is literally Satan" and "Hillary is literally Satan" (he changes it to fit the narrative) somehow pass under the radar?
"Making them so widespread on the internet ~ is not that easy."
It is that easy for the most part, it just takes time.
"why are they targeted so often and so aggressively when people like Alex Jones ~ pass under the radar?"
Because Alex Jones is pretty fringe compared to the MSM, which is the exact opposite of fringe. He not as relevant, so he isn't targeted as much.
I see where you're going with this, but the way I see it, this whole "Nobody sane listens to Jones and his goons anyway, no worries" approach is exactly what got you guys Trump in the first place, along with the fact that the DNC is a total disgrace nowadays.
Seriously? Whoa, I knew that most celebrities were against Trump, but threatening to do an act of terrorism is fucking extreme. Maybe she'd like to blow up her mouth, that would maybe fix the space between her teeth.
She did say she has considered that act of terrorism. Nevermind the fact that she's a 1%er that doesn't even live in the US anymore. I wonder if she's grandstanding to sell music.
Maybe she is. Maybe she's just trying to stay relevant. (Maybe it's Maybelline)
In all seriousness though, having a political opinion and debating it with others is one thing, doing an attention stunt because hating Trump is cool is another. I'm no fan of his but that's because of his policies, not because of the hate bandwagon that has formed among many people.
Edit: I wish fs had a thing where you could see who upvoted/downvoted you. I said stuff against both the left and the right in this thread and I'm genuinely wondering who's downvoting me, butthurt righties or butthurt lefties?
Isn't the point of the upvote/downvote system to get a general sense of opinion on the comment/video/whatever? You can't tell who upvoted or downvoted your youtube videos, can you?
Sure but if you had an option to see a list of users who down/upvoted you, you could get a sense of who disagrees with you, and also point out some downvote trolls and such. My personal rule while debating on the internet is not to blindly downvote but instead present a counter-argument. Some people are just too lazy or busy to do that, I guess. Anyways I wrote it rather because I wanted to see who got more mad since I went after both the left and the right.
I think downvotes without a supporting argument are weak. I also think there are trolls that downvote everything certain people say and I think every comment on some posts get targeted as well.
Don't get me wrong, I think upvote/downvote systems are stupid and rarely use them. If someone wanted to let you know they disagreed with you I imagine they would just make a comment to that effect. Other than that I think the anonymity is part of why people use them in the first place.
We haven't been rioting, making ourselves a pubic nuicense, or threatening violence.
Do you really think they would be able to pull off this level of autism?
Proliferating internet conspiracies is a lot easier than gathering hundreds of thousands of people together to yell about how "good didn't win this election" and whatever else. They're clearly entirely different levels of autism.
"alt-right movement?"
That's a fringe movement, and the autists in it are only a fringe within it.
I agree the "team" mentality is stupid, though.
It is that easy for the most part, it just takes time.
"why are they targeted so often and so aggressively when people like Alex Jones ~ pass under the radar?"
Because Alex Jones is pretty fringe compared to the MSM, which is the exact opposite of fringe. He not as relevant, so he isn't targeted as much.
In all seriousness though, having a political opinion and debating it with others is one thing, doing an attention stunt because hating Trump is cool is another. I'm no fan of his but that's because of his policies, not because of the hate bandwagon that has formed among many people.
Edit: I wish fs had a thing where you could see who upvoted/downvoted you. I said stuff against both the left and the right in this thread and I'm genuinely wondering who's downvoting me, butthurt righties or butthurt lefties?
Just don't make it obvious.