Multiple counts of robbery, kidnapping and burglary.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rene-lima-marin-pardoned-john-hickenlooper/
And they let him off with not even 5% of his time served. But the guy with the non violent conviction (and 1/3 if the sentence length) served more than half his sentence and he's back in prison.
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Wait, they can't do that right? Isn't there a law that prevents this from happening?
A decent lawyer should be able to get him out but he will still have to go back into custody at least temporarily in order to be elligible for the appeal. Bureaucracy at work.
35 years for a non violent drug crime, meanwhile Brock Turner the rapist got like, what, two months? That is majorly fucked up.
I heard the judge on the Turner case got fired though so... it's something.
Yes there is. In the US, drug related crimes are so overly punished it's ridiculous. Selling a chemical substance can get you a lot more years in jail than actually violating a person's body without their consent, and I'm not talking only about the Turner case. It's fucked up in principle and it's well demonstrated by these two cases but they aren't the only representation of it.
"Prison sentences for rape are not uniform. A study made by the U.S. Department of Justice of prison releases in 1992, involving about 80 percent of the prison population, found that the average sentence for convicted rapists was 9.8 years, while the actual time served was 5.4 years."
ONLY 5 YEARS. That's ridiculous!
The guy in the post got the same punishment as a murderer could get. Don't tell me there isn't any point in pointing that out.
I'm not saying you're wrong about the sentences being wrong, I'm saying it doesn't help anything by comparing them.
It's not a compelling argument because the legal system doesn't compare sentencing between different crimes as a part of it's decisions in the first place.
Hmm, no I think it is a relevant argument to compare them, because it helps people realize that the gap between our morals/common sense and the law may be a lot bigger than we imagine.
I still think it's more effective to look at each charge individually and decide whether the punishment fits the crime.
That said, if you want to tell these thing to people in general I guess that fine, but a softer tone would likely serve you better.
but we fucked up so let's send him back
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rene-lima-marin-pardoned-john-hickenlooper/
And they let him off with not even 5% of his time served. But the guy with the non violent conviction (and 1/3 if the sentence length) served more than half his sentence and he's back in prison.
I heard the judge on the Turner case got fired though so... it's something.
"Prison sentences for rape are not uniform. A study made by the U.S. Department of Justice of prison releases in 1992, involving about 80 percent of the prison population, found that the average sentence for convicted rapists was 9.8 years, while the actual time served was 5.4 years."
ONLY 5 YEARS. That's ridiculous!
The guy in the post got the same punishment as a murderer could get. Don't tell me there isn't any point in pointing that out.
It's not a compelling argument because the legal system doesn't compare sentencing between different crimes as a part of it's decisions in the first place.
That said, if you want to tell these thing to people in general I guess that fine, but a softer tone would likely serve you better.