Conversations may evolve but your rants spiral. You talk too much and say nothing. Predicting my rational responses is not a superpower you blue horn bill water chestnut madman. Keep on living and stop ranting. I will not be a party to your nonesense. Good day sir

.... the center of the world. I don't care if you do anything. You can eat as much meat as you want. Likewise you can smoke as many cigarettes per day as you want. Why should I care? But if nobody cared about cigarettes and told people they are dangerous, I would settle for some people being honest and telling people about the dangers of smoking. You know that decades before people would watch adverts on TV for Camel and other cigarette brands. Now each pack of cigarettes has a warning on it and everybody knows about the dangers of smoking. At least vegans are doing something about it, talking about it, raising awareness. What are you doing? Just writing nonsensical long ass paragraphs saying no it's ok, meat production is not that bad, we shouldn't be worried. Go to sleep man, just stop it. This is pathetic

Are you schizophrenic? Let me say it again. Meat eating is a great concern for human beings. You said it is not a big issue. I return to my example. Cancer is a big issue. I don't care if you personally don't do anything about that, as long as people know it is a huge problem that must be fixed and they are doing everything that they can. It doesn't matter if you, Guest-, personally do something about it or not. I said it is an important issue, you said no it isn't we shouldn't bother other people. I said it is a big issue. I provided references that show it is a big issue. You neglected the references (a sane individual would have said that I didn't know it is such a big issue, I will study more about it or I stop saying it is not important and vegans should quit bothering people, which seems a big demand from someone like you). People wear wristbands to increase awareness about cancer. I DO NOT care if you individually wear such a ribbon for cancer or not. You are not....

Oh my god guest. Each time I think you are understanding the point you disappoint me again and meanwhile you think you are a great intellectual. In fact, I am getting curious. What sort of debating is this? Have you gone to a class for this? Why are you complicating a simple point. Meat eating is a major issue and nobody cares if you don't believe in reincarnation. My point isn't that people must do something. I am the one who doesn't believe in reincarnation and I don't care what you do with your life, what you eat or don't eat. That's not the point I am making. I am saying it is a major issue to whom it may concern. That's just it. You can do something about it or don't do. But you cannot say it isn't important. If you are not actively searching for a cure for cancer, it doesn't mean that cancer is not an issue as a whole or for you as an individual. I don't care what you do about the info, just don't deny that it is a problem that must be dealt with by whoever cares

In actuality the meat lobby is very strong and many studies that say there is no real problem with meat and dairy are funded and commissioned by meat and dairy companies. Watch some of the documentaries especially what the health and forks over knives. Good ideas for your health too

Just watch the documentary to get a better grasp of it. Then you can critisize it in any way you see fit

Thank the lord Jesus.

Wow. You resort to anything to prove your point. Cows don't produce methane then. That's new. Buy man. You are having fun with something

Do you see that meat eating is an issue? More important that batteries of electric cars from Japan?

We are currently growing enough food to feed 10 billion people.
Worldwide, at least 50% of grain is fed to livestock.
82% of starving children live in countries where food is fed to animals, and the animals are eaten by western countries.
15x more protein on any given area of land with plants, rather than cows.
The average American consumes 209 pounds of meat per year.
1.5 acres can produce 37,000 pounds of plant-based food.
1.5 acres can produce 375 pounds of beef.

40-50 million sharks killed in fishing lines and nets.
Animal agriculture is responsible for up to 91% of Amazon destruction.
1-2 acres of rainforest are cleared every second.
The leading causes of rainforest destruction are livestock and feedcrops
Up to 137 plant, animal and insect species are lost every day due to rainforest destruction.
26 million rainforest acres (10.8m hectares) have been cleared for palm oil production.
136 million rainforest acres cleared for animal agriculture.
1,100 Land activists have been killed in Brazil in the past 20 years.
414 billion dollars in externalized cost from animal ag.
80% of antibiotic sold in the US are for livestock.
70 billion farmed animals are reared annually worldwide. More than 6 million animals are killed for food every hour.
Throughout the world, humans drink 5.2 billion gallons of water and eat 21 billion pounds of food each day.
Worldwide, cows drink 45 billion gallons of water and eat 135 billion pounds of food each day.
We are.

These ones I just add for clarity, the sources are on the page:
Every minute, 7 million pounds of excrement are produced by animals raised for food in the US.
A farm with 2,500 dairy cows produces the same amount of waste as a city of 411,000 people.
130 times more animal waste than human waste is produced in the US – 1.4 billion tons from the meat industry annually. 5 tons of animal waste is produced per person in the US.
In the U.S. livestock produce 116,000 lbs of waste per second
3/4 of the world’s fisheries are exploited or depleted.
We could see fishless oceans by 2048.
As many as 2.7 trillion animals are pulled from the ocean each year.
For every 1 pound of fish caught, up to 5 pounds of unintended marine species are caught and discarded as by-kill.
Scientists estimate as many as 650,000 whales, dolphins and seals are killed every year by fishing vessels.

I don't want to add more to the thread so just check this page if you are physically able to click a link:
http://www.cowspiracy.com/facts/

Fact: Agriculture is responsible for 80-90% of US water consumption.
source: "How Important is Irrigation to U.S. Agriculture?" USDA: Economic Research Service. 12 October, 2016

Fact: Animal agriculture water consumption ranges from 34-76 trillion gallons annually.
Source: "Summary of Estimated Water Use in the United States in 2005". United States Geological Service
Pimentel, David, et al. "Water Resources: Agricultural and Environmental Issues". BioScience. (2004) 54 (10): 909-918

Fact: Fracking (hydraulic fracturing) water use ranges from 70-140 billion gallons annually.
source: "Draft Plan to Study the Potential Impacts of Hydraulic Fracturing on Drinking Water Resources". EPA. February 2011
Geetanjali, Chauhan, et al. "Hydraulic Fracturing for Oil and Gas and its Environmental Impacts". Research Journal of Recent Sciences. Vol. 4 (ISC-2014), 1-7 (2015) (New)

Fact: Even without fossil fuels, we will exceed our 565 gigatonnes CO2e limit by 2030, all from raising animals.
Source: Oppenlander, Richard A. Food Choice and Sustainability: Why Buying Local, Eating Less Meat, and Taking Baby Steps Won’t Work. . Minneapolis, MN : Langdon Street, 2013. Print.
Source: calculation is based on http://www.worldwatch.org/node/6294 analyses that 51% of GHG are attributed to animal ag.

Fact: US Methane emissions from livestock and natural gas are nearly equal.
Source: "Overview of Greenhouse Gases". United States Environmental Protection Agency.
"Key facts and findings. By the numbers: GHG emissions by livestock". FAO. (New)
"Inventory of U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Sinks 1990-2015". United States Environmental Protection Agency (new)

Fact: Emissions for agriculture projected to increase 80% by 2050.
source: Tilman, David & Clark, Michael. "Global diets link environmental sustainability and human health". Nature. Vol. 515. 27 November 2014

Fact: Livestock is responsible for 65% of all human-related emissions of nitrous oxide – a greenhouse gas with 296 times the global warming potential of carbon dioxide, and which stays in the atmosphere for 150 years.
source: "Livestock' Long Shadow: environmental issues and options". FAO. Rome. 2006
"Emissions of Greenhouse Gases in the United States". U.S. Energy Information Administration. March 31, 2011

Fact: Methane has a global warming potential 86 times that of CO2 on a 20 year time frame.
source: Shindell, Drew T, et al. "Improved Attribution of Climate Forcing to Emissions". Science. 326, 716 (2009)

Fact: Methane is 25-100 times more destructive than CO2 on a 20 year time frame.
Source: Shindell, Drew T, et al. "Improved Attribution of Climate Forcing to Emissions". Science. 326, 716 (2009)
Vaidyanathan, Sayathri. "How Bad of a Greenhouse Gas is Methane? The global warming potential of the gaseous fossil fuel may be consistently underestimated". Scientific American. December 22, 2015.

Fact: Livestock and their byproducts account for at least 32,000 million tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) per year, or 51% of all worldwide greenhouse gas emissions.
source: Goodland, R Anhang, J. “Livestock and Climate Change: What if the key actors in climate change were pigs, chickens and cows?”
Goodland, Robert & Anhang, Jeff. "Livestock and Climate Change: What if the key actors in climate change are...cows, pigs and chickens?". WorldWatch. November/December 2009
Hickman, Martin. "Study claims meat creates half of all greenhouse gases". Independent. November 2009
Hyner, Christopher. "A Leading Cause of Everything: One Industry That Is Destroying Our Planet and Our Ability to Thrive on It". Georgetown Environmental Law Review. October 23, 2015.

Fact: Transportation exhaust is responsible for 13% of all greenhouse gas emissions.
Source: "Livestock's Long Shadow: environmental issues and options". Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations. Rome 2006
Environmental Protection Agency. "Global Greenhouse Gas Emissions Data".