mickymouse · 6 years ago
Yeah it’s good, but it’s also been done a lot and is hard to maintain interest. The reason people like the whole ‘gettting into’ story’s is because it gives them an anxious new relationship feeling that isn’t there in already established relationships. May I suggest a stable relationship where an issue arises that is out of either of their control and breaks them apart (death of a parent or friend, one person gets too emotional and goes on a downward spiral) and they have to fight to get back together? This way the reader will fall in love with the idea of the couple and gives them something to cheer for
texasranger · 6 years ago
Yeah thats kinda what I was going for. Its a major subplot in a much bigger more complex story. Hes a bit brooding and stubborn (among many other traits) and shes brash headstrong and rebelous (again among many traits) they kinda have a supportive relationship like "they are their own thing and i support them"
kouyaaotsuki · 6 years ago
Readers aren’t going to be interested if this story is just like any other. Make it original and not over cliche-d
guest_ · 6 years ago
To be honest it's hard to say. Any "opera" drama hinges on people caring about your characters and feeling invested. When a story is very long or spans several books they usually start "fresh" not just because that gives the opportunity to get to know the characters as they do- but because your investment in their relationship depends on feeling like you're "in" on it. You've been through the ups and down, you've been rooting since day one, you've seen them grow and change, you've worried when he/she was in danger, or tempted. Stories are about showing not telling. If you tell me "and she's the love of his life blah blah-" ok. I don't care. It's easy to SAY. I need to FEEL it. I need to love each of them and love them as a couple. So it can work well and be interesting, but it hinges on you being able to cement my investment in an existing relationship within the first few chapters since you don't have long before something interesting happens. TBH though you haven't given much... cont
guest_ · 6 years ago
Cont... detail as to how or why this is any different than any other love story where two characters already know each other. The description above kinda reads like: "will people like it if I put a love story in my fiction?" Well.... usually? I mean- if it fits? If it's good? I'm not trying to be mean, I hope it doesn't come off that way. I'm trying to be honest and give the best constructive feedback I know how. I do t have any nebula or pulitzers though, so what do I know? It's your story so feel free to ignore anything I say as just some rando on the internet. But maybe some more detail would help if you are able and willing to give any? What is "special" or unique about the couple? How is their dynamic, how are they introduced, what voice and perspective are you planning to use? How do you plan to show us how important they are to each other and how long is your story/at what point do you plan to split your live birds up? Things like that.
deleted · 6 years ago
My only experience with writing love stories is one that started out as a sort of mentor-student relationship that became something more romantic.
texasranger · 6 years ago
Im very aware of the cliches and I am working hard to avoid them when they are unnecessary. Im of the mind set that cliches are fine if used in new ways. Also if a character is brooding for example a character who always broods is boring. Real people feel nore than just the one emotion. The guy who broods may also have a great sense of humor or be very fons of kittens.
texasranger · 6 years ago
@guest_ that chapter is from the male perspective and he's actually a predominantly snarky and deceptively clever character. Very smart and very witty. Even though he loves a good brood. Quick with his words and actions but doesnt run his mouth constantly. Im going to change PoV quite a bit. So we see her perspective as well. Also its a high/dark fantasy epic not a pure romance novel.
creativedragonbaby · 6 years ago
When trying to avoid cliches, reverse them. Do the exact opposite of the cliche. It'll make it more interesting, and the reader will not know what to expect.
creativedragonbaby · 6 years ago
Also I find with dark and broody characters, make them have an unexpected light side. For example, the dude might like singing, and he might be really good at it, except he doesn't want anyone to hear it because he's been working on this broody facade for ages.
guest_ · 6 years ago
Ah so. So the narrator is the internal monologue first person of each character "narrating?" High fantasy and romance don't have to go hand in hand- but it fits well enough. The two critical components are that we care about their relationship and feel the bond, and that it be well done. To the second- that's up to your artistic sensibilities and story telling craft. To the first- obviously craft plays into it, but it will be much on the presentation. If it's first person perspective narrative we get to see what the characters think. This may seem like an easy way to show there's a bond there- but it can also be a trap. Show not tell- so his thoughts of how much he loves her or how awesome she is- they are just monologing and exposition. The challenge is to show indirectly how much he cares while in his head. The other challenge I see there is mystery. Without having your narrator blatantly lie to the reader, but being able to keep some of that sly wit and charm may be hard....
guest_ · 6 years ago
unless it's past tense like they are recapping events- which has its own potential for spoiling surprises. But the thing about brooders is the mystery compels us. If we knew our broody hero like John Mclane was actually thinking about his laundry list, how scared he is, or doubting he can do it- he stops being a cool brooding guy and becomes a sad sack. I see challenges, so from the pieces I have what it sounds like is that to work you'll need a strong story craft, tight edits, above par dialog skill, and great ability to frame and play scenes to get the information across through subtext and hold off what you want while not insulting the reader.
texasranger · 6 years ago
Im writing in third person omnipotent. Also scene setting, imagery and descriptive actions both fast pace fights and/or normal stuff are what I consider my strengths in writing. I love to make the reader feel like they're there. Dialog is difficult but Im getting better. Showing not telling is an important thing to me.
@creativedragonbaby. Humor is important to me for showing his lighter side also his compassion, and passion for helping others in need.
guest_ · 6 years ago
It sounds like you have a clear vision, you've assessed your strengths, and you know your less refined skills. High fantasy lends well to romance, and if you have a way to get the reader invested in an existing g relationship before you introduce the danger (invested enough anyway since you can further explore the bond after that point and "grow the stake") there's no reason it can work. Plenty of stories have thrown us into existing relationships (romantic or otherwise) and made it clear these people were close and the bonds were real. Princess bride is held as a beloved romance/fantasy/adventure and set up a strong sense of investment in the love story despite only having a short opening to do so- through good use of tools and pacing. So you can do it if you feel up to it. We are here to lend any help we can or listen if you feel like sharing anything.
texasranger · 6 years ago
Their relationship is tricky cuz in my mind its a relationship but not the time consuming invested dating relationship like we know in modern western cultures (where all my personal experience comes from). They dont go on dates. They spend time together duh and enjoy each others company duh. But they dont do the whole romance courting bit. (Other characters from different cultures do). They support each other and would be very upset if they started fucking someone else. Its a very I guess practical relationship.
creativedragonbaby · 6 years ago
Please remember that not all relationships have to go super fast. I recently read a story where the character went from hating someone to liking someone in one day. (Just because they played in the ocean together and he was buff) don't make shallow girls please
texasranger · 6 years ago
Ahhh the insta romance dont worry I hate those too.
texasranger · 6 years ago
My big thing is that we always see in stories were the plot is the couple getting together but never see the relationship dynamic. ( harry and ginny). I want to explore the relationship not just the chase.
creativedragonbaby · 6 years ago
I find that a lot of people don't really describe what they like about them other than a few points. "Wow his eyes r so pretty omg love his hair wow his body so nice" and that's the only parts of them they talk about. Rarely anything about "I like the way he does this and that"