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purposelyanonymous · 8 years ago
That was to Crf
kittykitty · 8 years ago
The reason why it is 'coddled too much' is because it is a serious topic. Sadly, you don't seem to be able to comprehend that or you refuse to.
Honestly, why are you wasting your time replying? Just close your laptop and go away from this chat. We aren't going to give up. You say you don't spread hate, but you literally just said someone wasn't 'good at killing themselves'. You 'have no respect for people who kill themselves'. That, right there, is rude. I know it probably doesn't matter to you because to you they're just dead and you don't care. Although, I know a lot of suicidal people who overcome it all and they become the most inspirational people I know. I know people who have lost others, personally and not personally, who are inspirations as well. Not saying that being suicidal makes you inspirational, but I know that overcoming it ends up making you a stronger person because you went from saying 'I can't live until tomorrow,' to 'I can't wait to see tomorrow.'
deleted · 8 years ago
Suicidal people already think they deserve to die, that's kind of the definition of suicidal. That's not putting them down that's expressing my opinion on a topic.
kittykitty · 8 years ago
Also, suicidal people are not 'quitters', they aren't 'attention seeking', and they do not do it 'because they don't get their way'. They do it because people make them feel worthless, and everyone wants to be worth something even if it's only for a few people. Everyone wants to be loved, and everyone wants to be treated like what they are, human. People drive others to the breaking point, whether they're bullied by students, family, adults, younger people, social media, all of it. Again, some people are also not mentally stable and they could be told by voices inside their head that they need to die. They don't control this, and they don't show it if they truly want to die. Pretend you have a happy neighbor. You could see them smiling and doing stuff to help others, make them smile, and never know that last weekend they were crying while holding a snapped noose in their hand, or perhaps throwing up pills they just swallowe. You never know, and it can happen to even the happiest people
kittykitty · 8 years ago
Once again, crf, why are you bothering replying? Just go away. If you have negative comments, go express them to someone who agrees with you instead of pointlessly arguing with 4 people who highly disagree with your views.
deleted · 8 years ago
I've expressed my opinion, I respect all of yours, you're not wrong, any of you, but to me I just don't agree with all the love and support given to people who don't want to live. Call me an asshole or whatever you want but I'll focus my attention on people who do want to live and who will never give up. To me, they deserve the help more. Because even the strongest of us needs a helping hand and I believe that not enough of them are getting it.
thekaylapup · 8 years ago
Crf- We are trying to give attention to those who need it. Those who are suffering.
And it sounds like you are. You are clearly angry about this, and you are angry because you've been hurt. You've been left with scars and are still standing tall. And I am glad. I am glad you never hurt so much you wanted to end your life, and I am sorry you have lost.
thekaylapup · 8 years ago
And you have asked for attention. And you have demanded it. You don't believe you will get sympathy because you aren't hurting enough. You believe you need to be strong willed to be worthy of life. And you won't let yourself be weak willed or seem weak willed for it.
I do feel sorry for you crf. Genuinely, for your losses and your hardships.
But I don't think people who aren't as strong willed are less deserving of my sympathy, and I believe they need more. I believe you will be okay, but they may die without assistance.
deleted · 8 years ago
NOTHING will ever hurt me enough to make me want to end my life. Period.
twerkin4potatoes · 8 years ago
We WANT to live. We want to live in a world when most of the faces around us are uncaring and cruel. We just want a friend, if only one, that will be there to say that it will get better, that they will be there if they need someone to talk to. I have people like that, but I don't want to burden them with my problems most of the time. I respect Anon's attempt at letting the people of FunSubstance know that the world is a fucked up place.
What really makes my day is waking up and checking my emails, seeing a message saying "Congrats on making another day, Nate, I'll piss you off all your life if it means you have one"
kittykitty · 8 years ago
I will not throw around the name 'asshole', because that's rather immature. I like that you believe in helping the stronger, but I personally try to focus on everyone who needs help whether they are suicidal or not. I believe in making everyone happy, because everyone deserves it unless they are completely douchey. Even then, there is a slim chance they can turn around and become better, and more people will be willing to help them that way if they need it.
thekaylapup · 8 years ago
Guys- telling crf to go away doesn't help anyone. Okay?
His (Her) opinion is an opinion. And (s)he wouldn't still be here if (s)he didn't have reason to have strong emotions behind those opinions.
We should want to help everyone, and be kind to everyone, not just those who agree with us.
twerkin4potatoes · 8 years ago
thekaylapup, just as he is defending his own opinion, we are defending ours.
twerkin4potatoes · 8 years ago
Well, he/she
thekaylapup · 8 years ago
Crf- start a trend. Grab up more attention for the cause you think needs more support. By all means help the strong. Help anyone who needs it. Helping people who aren't suicical doesn't have to take away from helping those who are, or vice-versa. You have a voice, and with it you have the power to get attetion for your cause. But it isn't going to come from talking down another cause. - Rather it will come from talking up your own.
thekaylapup · 8 years ago
Telling someone to go away isn't defending your opinion, it's just excluding them from conversation. Moreover it makes it look as though we have run out of counter agruments and are resorting to just fighting.
kittykitty · 8 years ago
You aren't wrong, kaylapup, and I apologize. I have run out of things to really say, but I was simply just trying to say earlier that arguing with us was pointless so why continue. Now, I will not argue anymore, I will simply take my own advice and leave. I hope this dies down without anon having to delete it. I still believe more people should read this, and it can spread hope like it was intended to do. Adieu <3
thekaylapup · 8 years ago
Kittykitty- I appreciate your maturity in this. And I also hope we can turn this into an environment where there is only reason and love. I might even have an idea to drive more traffic this way. Do have a good night, and remember your life is worth living, even when it doesn't seem like it.
chu · 8 years ago
I think dark jokes and gallows humor have a very specific time and place to be told. Namely, among people who know they can give and take it. We definitely need to teach kids to be sensitive about others but not necessarily to keep those little bits of (frankly) hilarious dark humor bottled up.
But at the same time I think elementary is too young for people to be making suicide jokes. I dunno. I started rambling after the first sentence.
lmao123 · 8 years ago
I agree with everyone