Turn your reference photo upside down. It also helps if your photo is black and white, makes it easier to see the lines you gotta draw.

Never heard of turning the reference picture upside down, does that actually help?

It does for me. I think it's because when you turn it upside down you start seeing lines instead of shapes, and that makes it easier to be more accurate, and you get a better look at the size dimensions you need.

Ive been drawing and sketching for as long as I can remember but mostly just letters and symbols and such never could draw faces I'll have to try it that way makes sense

I find it hard drawing faces too, that's why i am asking for help. Cap do you have kik or something, i will be needing help of i get stuck somewhere.

GRIDDING HELPS A TON AND YES TURNING THE PAPER UPSIDE DOWN DOES HELP

I don't, sorry. :-/ You could make a chat and summon me to it though. I'm on here daily, so I'll see it :D

I don't need to make a chat, this will do.
And thanks @aeacus , @ruinedeffect and @steve_rogers

No problem, pal! And don't be shy asking for anything, you'll do great! :-D

I don't know about any ok ne else here but I'd like to see when you're finished

Me too!

I'll post it

Why didn't you ask earlier on kik I'm great at drawing...

Sowriee i thought there are much more people here than kik so i didn't ask. And this came into my mind now.