I understand that we're all joking here and this person has done some pretty awful things to his appearance, but calling a person an "it" is always wrong.
Picture them without hair. There's no way to say whether they're a guy or a girl, but you can at least tell they're a biological male. Either way, just saying they works better than saying "it". They're a person, not an object.
I don't think it's a big deal either way. People would have issues if I called whatever gender this person is a "she-male," too but that's life. People will be offended either way and there's no point in getting upset over it. @song, although not everything you post has an agenda to it, you do come off as preachy in about everything I notice you posting. Is it really that big of an issue?
Just adding to your "they're a person, not an object" comment, songofthewhitestag. In the English language, by saying "they" you are also objectifying the person. EX: "Where are your keys, mom?" "THEY are over there." "It" can be used the same way "they" can be used. And if a person identifies as neither male nor female, as you say some people you know do, what are we supposed to say? It's awkward not knowing what to say when someone doesn't know what they want to be identified as. "IT" is a safe word for those of us who don't deal with people who identify as neither sex. Maybe they should open their mouths and just tell people that they want to be called "he" or "she" instead of quietly being offended by it. That helps more than anything you or I can talk about on the internet
And your point? If it's not easy at first glance then why does it matter? No one is in anatomy or figure drawing classes on here, and if they are they aren't going to sit there and analyze this person's facial structure when the post is, in fact, a joke. YOU are the one who can't take anything as "funny" and you have to be offended or political. You can't even acknowledge the fact that you also were wrong. You just try to say "it's" a man. It has a mustache too but you don't even notice that do you? Quit arguing about something that's not going to change. :)
Just wanted to pop in and share a link- in cases where gender is unclear, "they" or "their" are completely acceptable to use, and considered placeholder pronouns that can be substituted for a person's prefered pronoun (if unknown). It's great to ask what pronoun they prefer, but if unsure, these work. Calling someone an "it" or a "thing" is not considered acceptable.
Here is a link to some other tips:
http://everydayfeminism.com/2013/09/correct-gender-pronouns-to-be-trans-ally/
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I posted this purely for fun, and in response to the influx of banal selfie posts. Lets take it down a notch eh?
Here is a link to some other tips:
http://everydayfeminism.com/2013/09/correct-gender-pronouns-to-be-trans-ally/
Hey, did someone say "period"? ;)