you can find a study that proves anything. you can find a study that disproves anything. body issues come from what we do to REAL women's bodies not dolls and cartoons, it comes from MESSAGES we send with our words and expectations and double standards. we can post links on both sides of this issue all day. example: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/23/moms-daughters-influence-body-image/2690921/ i would also point out that the study referenced by the articles supporting the "barbie is bad" side has a conclusion that is wishy washy at best "MAY damage girls’ body image, which would contribute to an increased risk of disordered eating and weight cycle." emphasis mine. there are far far far too many confounding factors to account for in this form of study as there is no way to remove the girls entirely from society to test the theory properly, or to remove societal influences they were already exposed to growing up.
"you can find a study that proves anything. you can find a study that disproves anything. " - right, and there are scientists who deny a climate problem. There IS strength in numbers though, and there is the Gaussian distribution. Nobody really is seeing skinny dolls as "the" reason for self-esteem problems, but they are one of a few contributing factor, the majority of studies is in agreeance.
As to the usatoday link: bet most of those mothers played with barbies when they were kids.
as near as i can tell theres ONE study indicating barbies MAY damage body image, which is sort of my point... heres ONE followup study that found different.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2991547/
there simply are not enough studies for anyone to claim studies have made the end-all to this, so simply put "nope google says you are wrong" is not a valid shut down. if there were overwhelming studies and scientific consensus i would ABSOLUTELY agree, i am not one to argue against proven facts. in all the articles i pulled up i could only find references to two studies, the first one that i assume you are talking about, and the second one that i just liked. the second one found no change to body perception but did find girls who played with barbie instead of the other toy ate less when fed after, but it did not say if they ate a healthy amount or if it was too much less, which i think would have been an important fact in this issue but oh well.
Look on the page you linked, see the right side and click on "all" under "Similar articles in pubmed". Especially this: http://www.willettsurvey.org/TMSTN/Gender/DoesBarbieMakeGirlsWantToBeThin.pdf Doesn't that sort of horrify you? Take in consideration the effects of barbie-like tv and media personalities. Why does this need discussion?
tv and media is a completely different animal than the doll, and i think i've made my position that things in society ARE effecting body image very clear. again, if you are going to find things featuring only one or two studies, you cannot take the results to heart. i do not think kids think toy dolls are a realistic image of what they are supposed to look like, just like they do not think they are supposed to look like unhuman-looking human cartoon characters.
Nope, they are too close together to ignore the reciprocal effect of these different influences. When media stars start to look like a barbie doll, its a rather similar animal. Its got nothing to do with what kids THINK, its working subliminal. Its not that they consciously chose to look like an unrealistic doll, d'oh, but its working on them and it has a proven effect on many. Again: why does that need to be argued, when it is soo obvious? Have you looked into some of the studies I helped finding you?
it was one study, with a sample size of 162. hardly enough to form a scientific consensus, as i said, there appears to be two studies done on this matter, and the second one found no link with body image. there just isn't the science to back up either side on this issue at this moment. i would say at this point we've reached a pretty solid "agree to disagree" because we are just going to keep repeating the same opinions at each other.
Last chance, then I give up. Studie-S. Plural. Read. My.Text. And this "agree to disagree" schmutz is just always so pathetic. Its a wannabe smart way of saying: I have my opinion and I will absolutely not bother to obtain one bit more information than I have right now. You have simply neither read what I wrote, nor the numerous studies I showed you. In. Your. Very. Own. Link. by the way. This is very ridiculous.
you put one link. to one study. that i was already familiar with. its not lazy when theres not more information to be had. i am not about to go conduct a study on this issue as i am certainly not passionate about it i'd much better spend my time reading up on gecko morphs. the only way either of us could be "right" is with much more studies with thousands of participants so no, its not lazy to say, lets stop arguing about this, there is no point. clearly you are of the opinion i am lazy and ridiculous until i agree with your point of view. i do not agree due to lack of evidence on either side. deal with it.
"Look on the page you linked, see the right side and click on "all" under "Similar articles in pubmed". " - you did not even take a look there, that makes you lazy, thats not an opinion, its a fact.
i appologize for being too lazy to dedicate hours and hours of research to fighting you on something i have an opinion on but no real cares or vested interest in. as much as i would just love to put together a research paper on this, i am returning to my normal life of things i actually have a class on and things that i research because they actually effect my life. i continue to find blaming dolls for body issues stupid.
In a Barbie world
Life in plastic
It's fantastic
You can brush my hair
UNDRESS ME EVERYWHERE
I was just sayin
As to the usatoday link: bet most of those mothers played with barbies when they were kids.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2991547/
there simply are not enough studies for anyone to claim studies have made the end-all to this, so simply put "nope google says you are wrong" is not a valid shut down. if there were overwhelming studies and scientific consensus i would ABSOLUTELY agree, i am not one to argue against proven facts. in all the articles i pulled up i could only find references to two studies, the first one that i assume you are talking about, and the second one that i just liked. the second one found no change to body perception but did find girls who played with barbie instead of the other toy ate less when fed after, but it did not say if they ate a healthy amount or if it was too much less, which i think would have been an important fact in this issue but oh well.