Um what about tribes and villages separating us in prehistory??
Even just a hundred or so years ago the American Indians fought other tribes.
Remote tribes in the Amazon and in Africa still fight.
Same race. No money. No religion to speak of. No politics except that they don't like foreigners.
It matters because the sign implies that without the listed "offences" we would all be sitting in a circle, holding hands and singing kumbya.
Humans have always and will always have differences. Just simply living in a different tribe, or having a different color hair is enough to "divide us."
We wouldn't have gotten to this "current, modern society" without any of this. You SJW's need to start coming up with better arguments because you people sound stupid as hell.
Gamergate started it as basically just a general insult toward liberals and the left. Tbh though i am a fairly left leaning moderate. I kind of find the term as a bit of a cop out insult though unless they are literally people who call themselves social justice warriors because that happens too for some damn reason.
Why do you have to take it to the extremes? Trust me, nobody wants to sing kumbaya with you, once they get to know you. What was a rational behavior in a prehistoric village doesn't make sense in today's melting pot societies. So you can either be a part of the problem and state these dividing factors are just natural, or you can be part of the solution and realize that categories like race, religion, wealth and politics are man made and mainly instruments of divide and conquer. Race is even more of a construct than the idea of two genders, with even less scientific backup. Religion has hardly anything to do with the spirituality we are born with. Wealth is the direct result of pauperization. And do we need to dicsuss politics? The man has successfully brainwashed you to believe the problem are people who fight for social justice. How very sad.
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*"Prehistoric village" This is still common to this day. Have a look at the Amazonian cannibals, the raping savages of Africa, the severe women oppression of the Middle East, etc.
*You aren't born with spirituality. It's something that is taught. They tell you spirituality is something you need in order to live a happy life.
*"Race is even more of a construct than the idea of two genders, with less scientific backup" What kind of crackpot shit is this! LMAO You've clearly never done any scientific research then and simply believe whatever it is your fellow LGBT and SJWs tell you to believe, right?
*"Wealth is the direct result of pauperization"?? I'm sorry I had almost forgotten that the USA is a capitalistic society. I believe the society you're looking for is North Korea?
*Please, we would be delighted to discuss politics with you :)
*"The Man" I do hope you're wearing your tin foil hat... if not The Man might be listening in on your thoughts (/.\)
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We don't have a problem with actual Social Justice: Doctors without Borders and other such organizations that help out actual social issues.
We have a problem with SJWs such as your self: the type who ask for handouts and safe spaces, etc.
I consider myself a realist. My only point is that human nature is what divides us. Religion, skin color, socioeconomic status, etc, etc, etc; these are only the excuses dujour. We have always, and will always divide ourselves along some line or another.
I know you consider yourself that, you're just very wrong. There is a tendency to divide but in a modern, communication based society its a bad thing and it does not make sense. Most of us don't live in communities of less than 500 people.
As to korozco: you're mixing up several completely different cultures with your bigotted stereotypes of "raping savages" and such. As to race: then explain to me why there is more variation within a socalled race as there is between races. I know you can identify races by blood samples, but thats totally different from what you believe you're talking about. Also explain to me where "wealth" is coming from. And then tell me you trust politicians.
And you know what: when a bigotted, ignorant redneck with an information allergy calls me a SJW, I see it as an honour. Thank you.
Saying that only leads to more people who will never even try. Also the way you presented your argument, its just plain wrong. People are born with a pretty high level of aggression, and they learn to control it. You will not find people arguing, its just human nature, will you?
Nothing I said should in any way be interpretated as we shouldn't try to be decent people. Just because it is in our nature does not mean we cannot overcome it, nor does it mean we should accept it. What we should accept is that we will never change ALL people's minds or ALL instances of someone being an asshole.
And I do not believe that any argument from anyone will lead to people not trying. Decent human beings will always be decent human beings.
wow...I'm not human anymore?...is this true?...THE HELL WITH YOUR "TRUE"
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Even if we didn't have these things we still wouldn't get along. Some of us are athletic, attractive, artistic, intelligent, etc.
WE ARE NOT BORN EQUAL!
Well, we have more or less evolved, haven't we? "I'm not condoning rape but for the most part of human evolution a date probably was some man dragging a woman into a cave and let it roll. Naturally." - does that make sense to you as well? Obviously we weren't born equal, but we all have so much more in common than what divides us. And being an athletic, attractive, artistic, intelligent delusional narcissist doesn't make anyone any better than anybody else.
See what you're looking for is a Utopian society where everyone is equal and everyone has a rightful place. At our current population and scientific standing it's impossible, plain and simple. We need to expand our scientific research a thousands fold before we can reach a Utopian society. Do you want to know what has driven scientific research? I'll tell you, it's been money. Money that is funded by a Capitalist society
I am not looking FOR an utopian society in some distant future, I'm looking AT todays real existing society. And your outdated view on things is not even helpful to deal with the present.
You're point is irrelevant to this conversation. I don't think racism is right. Not now, not ever. My point is if you are going to try to solve these issues which we should, don't go at them while looking at their origins and causes incorrectly. Racism isn't something that just one day happened when a white dude saw a black guy. Humans evolved with at least some subtle racism.
Even just a hundred or so years ago the American Indians fought other tribes.
Remote tribes in the Amazon and in Africa still fight.
Same race. No money. No religion to speak of. No politics except that they don't like foreigners.
Humans have always and will always have differences. Just simply living in a different tribe, or having a different color hair is enough to "divide us."
*You aren't born with spirituality. It's something that is taught. They tell you spirituality is something you need in order to live a happy life.
*"Race is even more of a construct than the idea of two genders, with less scientific backup" What kind of crackpot shit is this! LMAO You've clearly never done any scientific research then and simply believe whatever it is your fellow LGBT and SJWs tell you to believe, right?
*"Wealth is the direct result of pauperization"?? I'm sorry I had almost forgotten that the USA is a capitalistic society. I believe the society you're looking for is North Korea?
*Please, we would be delighted to discuss politics with you :)
*"The Man" I do hope you're wearing your tin foil hat... if not The Man might be listening in on your thoughts (/.\)
We have a problem with SJWs such as your self: the type who ask for handouts and safe spaces, etc.
As to korozco: you're mixing up several completely different cultures with your bigotted stereotypes of "raping savages" and such. As to race: then explain to me why there is more variation within a socalled race as there is between races. I know you can identify races by blood samples, but thats totally different from what you believe you're talking about. Also explain to me where "wealth" is coming from. And then tell me you trust politicians.
And you know what: when a bigotted, ignorant redneck with an information allergy calls me a SJW, I see it as an honour. Thank you.
And I do not believe that any argument from anyone will lead to people not trying. Decent human beings will always be decent human beings.
WE ARE NOT BORN EQUAL!