Well, like Einstein himself said, Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence
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We have mountains of fossils, sedimentary rock formations, modern animals like the coelacanth that haven't changed in millions of years, the list goes on.
Not meant to be taken literally hm? Were you there? Look man, you have your beliefs, or disbeliefs, and I have mine. I'm not trying to convert you, but don't pretend to understand why the lord does what he does. Perhaps you analyze to much. I'm not saying just have blind faith, but when the time comes, you must know when to let go
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There's a theory that's been going around for quite some time about the location of the garden of eden. It's speculated to have been where the Red Sea is now and the whole "Eve eating the apple" thing was a metaphor for humans rejecting the old hunter-gatherer ways and becoming sedentry farmers. As a result nature, which early humans most likely perceived as some kind of God, punished them by flooding what would become the Red Sea, which coincided with the end of the last ice age.
I knew that was coming. But it fits all the descriptions including the 4 rivers thing. While only 2 rivers exist there today, scientists have discovered fossil rivers, essentially long dried-up rivers, that would have connected to the other still existing rivers in would become the Red Sea.
Because that was the only place with four rivers. Look, I'll give it to you, you're determined and you know your stuff, but you are basing everything off of guesswork, assumptions about the past, so far back that it's impossible to tell what happened.
It's the only place that fits the description exactly. And 12000 years ago the sea level was much lower, thanks to the massive ice caps, meaning that places today that're covered in water wouldn't have been back then. When the ice caps melted, the Red Sea river valley filled up. Several other ideas for the location of the garden of eden have also been the Mississippi River Delta, Florida, Brazil, the Nile River Delta, all sorts of places.
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@thecoolchristian were you there during biblical times? If not, then what evidence do you have? Your argument is based on a lot of assumptions, just like you claim science is.
Man I hate being late to these things, but what the heck.
Genesis names the Euphrates specifically as one of the 4 rivers that seperates from the river flowing out od Eden. The Hiddekel, which is known to be the Tigris, is also one of the 4.
The wording in Genesis shows the direction of flow for all those rivers is out away from Eden, not into it. Today the Euphrates and Tigris flow southward. We can probably assume it's always been that way.
So whatever the other two rivers might have been, the best guess I've heard so far is Turkey, somewhere around Lake Van.
Genesis names the Euphrates specifically as one of the 4 rivers that seperates from the river flowing out od Eden. The Hiddekel, which is known to be the Tigris, is also one of the 4.
The wording in Genesis shows the direction of flow for all those rivers is out away from Eden, not into it. Today the Euphrates and Tigris flow southward. We can probably assume it's always been that way.
So whatever the other two rivers might have been, the best guess I've heard so far is Turkey, somewhere around Lake Van.