Also native americans killed and took other native americans land before us. I fail to see how we do the exact same thing they are doing to themselves and they act like they are a bunch of victims.
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Who do you think brought the disease you dumb wenis
And I can't even address your other point befause of how stupid it is and I just don't know where to start
ok well are they responsible for the mass killiing. Do you think europeans in that century could have possibly known that a disease that they probably could not control would kill 90 percent of the population. and what is wrong with the second point. I am saying native americans complain and complain that we killed their people and took their land but before that they killed other tribes and took their land but when white people do it they got to all of a sudden complain and say hey man that isnt fair like they are just some peaceful nomads or something?
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Them not controlling it isn't the point, and I feel like 90% is exaggerated.
The fact of the matter is they were forced of their land and into reservations and is they fought back they were shot with no second thought. Ever heard of the massacre of Little Bighorn? And yes, I bet they got into wars and killed each other occasionally, people do that, but to suggest that they weren't almost completely wiped out is absurd. An entire race was almost completely wiped out by another, and you think they're "playing the victim", just stfu
I think that it was what people did in the time no need to get emotional im saying though it is what people did, they killed them and took their lands. Native americans, black, hispanic, white and asian all killed people and took each others lands. Native americans slaughtered people too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_massacre_of_1622 I do think they play the victim they sit on reservations that we should not have given them in the first place and get drunk off jack daniels using the money we send them instead of becoming self reliant. I am friends with a navajo so I dont have anything against them but im saying they need to stop with this they took our land crap and learn to move on I still see them trying to say you should give us this area back because it is special too us that is why i find it ridiculous no we should not give it back you lost fair and square.
I mean it is no secret that the native american population experience binge drinking, fetal alcohol syndrom, co occuring disorders, and heavy alcohol use were all higher in native american communites then the rest of the nation http://www.recovery.org/topics/native-americans-alcoholism/.
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But, but the amount of slaughtering they did was unnecessary
Yes they "play the victim" because there are so little left that they are basically endangered. Yeah, yeah "people kill and take each others' land all the time" but they weren't almost wiped out
And don't fucking say that about the reservations, don't you dare. They were forced into the reservations, forced to sign that treaty, so their people wouldn't be wiped out. Did you know that at one point, the Sioux actually tried to leave America and flee to Canada? But no, the Americans pulled them back, and forced them to sit in those reservations. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying "white people are the worst because they did this" but what happened back then to the Native Americans, was horrible. It's no one's fault today, no one went back in time and fucked them over. But, don't you dare say it wasn't horrible, and I've never heard anyone, even on the internet, try to "play the victim" or some shit
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Or maybe I just haven't come across it because there are so little of them left
yeah there arent very many of them left but it was from accidental spread of small pox it was never intentional and it wasnt from settlers lining them up and mowing them down. I dont consider 1 percent of people in the U.S. spanning 5 million people a tiny almost extinct group of people. I dont think it is right but do i think the settlers could have known better no you cannot judge of people of the past with morals that are established today. What they did back then was morally O.K. so actually I do not think it was horrible. You argue with nothing but emotion it makes you blind. I bet it was im sure the many times native americans killed innocent people it was unnecessary but how can you look back in history and see people who had completely different moral basis and beliefs and tell them they are wrong. In fact the only evidence we have of things is written documents which could be biased and could not represent things. Do you think scalping was necessary cutting the hairline off so
It is the same as the vikings a group of people who butchered killed and raided people invading churches on Sunday and butchering anyone in their way are demons. No they are people which grew up in an environment and had to show no mercy to survive. It was their religion and culture they believed what they were doing was right. So you cannot say anything about these people which committed these acts.
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I've been stating facts, tf you mean I've been arguing with emotion. Just because I sound angry and use curse words, does not mean I don't argue with fact.
We aren't talking about other people, so I don't know why you're bringing Vikings into this. Just because it was alright to do back then, does not mean it's fucking alright. That's like saying the Salem witch trials weren't fucked up, just because it was okay to do back then. The fact of the matter is, they were forced off their land, killed, and it was considered legal. I don't know how you got it in your head that what happened to them was any sort of okay. That's just fucked up
I think it is ok because yet again we cant judge them because we have no clue on how life was like back then. We dont have the details we dont know how people were raised what they thought what their intentions are we dont know shiz so no you cannot tell me these people were horrible. What makes you right compared to them? They got morals and we got morals just because they differ does not mean you get to tell them they are wrong. That is why i brought up vikings they slaughtered people but just like the pioneers we cannot judge them. You dont know what happened all you know is a handful of peoples opinions you cant prove it happened and was the way it was.
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I am done with this argument because I can't tell if you are a troll or not. If you aren't then, good luck with your life because I genuinely can't understand how someone can actually think that dumbly.
just because you dont see eye to eye with someone does not mean you get to call their argument dumb. Next time learn how to actually debate in a civilized way then maybe it will be interesting debate instead of you failing to understand with your inferior brain the words and things I say and calling them dumb.
And I can't even address your other point befause of how stupid it is and I just don't know where to start
The fact of the matter is they were forced of their land and into reservations and is they fought back they were shot with no second thought. Ever heard of the massacre of Little Bighorn? And yes, I bet they got into wars and killed each other occasionally, people do that, but to suggest that they weren't almost completely wiped out is absurd. An entire race was almost completely wiped out by another, and you think they're "playing the victim", just stfu
Yes they "play the victim" because there are so little left that they are basically endangered. Yeah, yeah "people kill and take each others' land all the time" but they weren't almost wiped out
And don't fucking say that about the reservations, don't you dare. They were forced into the reservations, forced to sign that treaty, so their people wouldn't be wiped out. Did you know that at one point, the Sioux actually tried to leave America and flee to Canada? But no, the Americans pulled them back, and forced them to sit in those reservations. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying "white people are the worst because they did this" but what happened back then to the Native Americans, was horrible. It's no one's fault today, no one went back in time and fucked them over. But, don't you dare say it wasn't horrible, and I've never heard anyone, even on the internet, try to "play the victim" or some shit
We aren't talking about other people, so I don't know why you're bringing Vikings into this. Just because it was alright to do back then, does not mean it's fucking alright. That's like saying the Salem witch trials weren't fucked up, just because it was okay to do back then. The fact of the matter is, they were forced off their land, killed, and it was considered legal. I don't know how you got it in your head that what happened to them was any sort of okay. That's just fucked up