please refer to the username. and other stuff im too tired to list right now. but i can assure you i dont know a single girl that takes off her clothes to play video games.
Isn't calling like 98% of the male population retarded a bit harsh?
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Women who play games are often derisively referred to as 'girl gamers' or 'fake nerds'. Nerd culture is still mostly seen as a boys club, and women are punished for participating. They are insulted and excluded, or put through extra tests to 'prove' their credibility. I would hardly call that a reversal of sexism.
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Career women still face wage gaps, glass ceilings, harassment, and tend to be seen as bitches rather than achievers.
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I'm not entirely sure what's going on with the cougar thing, but I suspect it plays more into a male sexual fantasy than the actual desires of older women. Women who go after minors are still seen as pedophiles.
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Feminism is a movement for equality, not female dominance.
The extra tests to "prove" girls are actually nerds is because of all the fake ones that just use it to sound cool. Its not that its a boys club and women are punished for trying to join it. Its that all the boys in the boys club got tired of the stupid girls that don't actually like, for instance, guitar hero, they just know if they barely put on any clothes and take pics with a guitar it will make them look cool.....As to your comment about it. It doesnt change the fact that the mental picture for a guy gamer is a fat lazy sleezeball and a girl gamer is a cute fit young girl with glasses
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I would love to see some data on how many women and girls fake interest in nerd culture for attention. Instead, I can only provide personal experience. I am active in my local tabletop RPG community and all the women who play are legitimately interested in the games. Even if they were only a little bit interested, nobody else has the right to tell them that they can't play.
I would also like to point out that not everybody shares the same mental image of gamers. Another stereotypical image is of a female "fat lazy sleezeball". In any case, the stereotypes aren't relevant. My impression of the original post was that it was trying to stifle feminism by promoting fear. (Ie. men should feel threatened by the empowerment of women.) This debate is getting too complicated for FS, so I'll leave off for the moment with this: Equity is one of the steps towards equality, not the final goal.
Okay I'm tired of seeing all these posts by men bitching about double standards.
1. Women are still ridiculed for being "cougars" and dating younger women just as men are. So don't try that bullshit. Besides, unless the guy is going after minors, he's not technically a pedophile.
And what guy doesn't dream of some hot twenty-five (when he may forty) year old with blonde hair and big boobs?
Can I also state the controversy of the pictures? Okay, so for the cougars, they have a picture of a beautiful, but an obviously older woman. Classic "cougar" type. For the pedophiles remark they firstly have a of a guy who looks like he's in a prison jumpsuit (the orange shirt) and looks like he's having a mug-shot or something. The second one looks a creepy mad-scientist that would assault you.
So, yeah, if I saw those dudes going around eyeing up young girls, I'd call them a pedophile because they look like ones.
Anyways, the whole reason that girls have initially like older men is because
(it cut me off) those men can take care of them. So it's the opposite with a cougar whereas she takes care of him. So we should celebrate both of them for being so well-off that they can take care of someone else (of course, they should be able to tell that they're a gold-digger if that's the only reason the significant other is dating them).
2. Okay, there are plenty of girl gamers and it's just that it's so rare that it makes it cool that a girl likes video-games. And I've honestly never met a guy without a Playstation or XBox or something.
I agree that men are generally more stereotyped on being a gamer, but that's not generally what I picture as a guy-gamer. I picture some skinny teenager in sweats and a hoodie playing World of Warcraft, jerking to each side every so often as a result of being so absorbed in a game. But it's only the idiots who think gamers are the overweight guys with towel-capes and play video-games practically as a living. So why the fuck is anyone listening
to those morons?
3. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME RIGHT FUCKING NOW. SOMEONE HOLD MY FUCKING WIG WHILE I FIND THE CREATOR OF THIS THING AND POUND HIS FUCKING ASS INTO THE FUCKING GROUND SO HARD THAT EVEN FUCKING CHINA WILL FEEL ME PUNCHING THIS MOTHERFUCKING ASSHOLE INTO THE FLOOR.
Women in business ARE called independent and strong sometimes, but most of the they're classified as bitches. Why? Because we have to act like bitches to get the men to listen to us and we have to be bitches to get to the top.
I will not count the times that a group of asshole men have laughed and snickered at me while I was making a presentation just because they thought I couldn't do it because I was some weak ass woman. The only way I got their fucking attention was to act like a motherfucking bitch.
Business is competitive as it is, the things you do are generally already labeled as bad, but if you're a woman and you really have to assert yourself because some jackass thinks you're incapable, then you
have to act like a motherfucking bitch in order to do you're business.
You think they want to act this way? No. I would much rather prefer to be all friendly and innocent and charming and easy like my coworkers, but a lot of assholes treat me like I'm less than them and I have to teach them wrong by being a bitch.
Not to motherfucking mention that it's still seventy-five cents to every dollar that a man makes. Is that fucking equal? Are you still complaining asshole? Not to mention all the blatant harassment. Especially if you're a woman in a workplace surrounded by men. Quite often, the harassment is made by your boss, as well. So it's not like you can do anything about it, lest you be fired. You just have to deal with it. And all the goddamn glass ceilings that prevent you from moving up just because you're a fucking woman. You know, I could go through so many more paragraphs describing the YEARS of oppression that women have suffered and the injustice they've gone through. But I'
m gonna stop here.
So, really, I dare those men to go crying into their little mommies handkerchiefs about how hard it is to be a man. How sexism is making your life so much harder. Complain about all the hard double-standards and unfairness. But you know what? Don't go crying to momma, she'll tell you the same thing I told you. So go cry to daddy. Or, better yet, cry to yourself. Rock yourself to sleep with your little blankie, telling yourself that one day all the double-standards will be gone and that the world will be completely equal and that you just have to wait. I fucking dare you.
(It's the poster of the super long comment. Yes, I came back to see the reaction to my comments. So sue me.)
I remained anonymous just because I couldn't be bothered to make a long comment.
Hate to break it to you... but if men who pursued careers didn't say things like "make me a sandwich" they might not be called chauvinists. Furthermore, I play video games all the time, and no one has ever called me sexy, cool, or fucktastic.... and guys who do other things and aren't fat aren't called fat or lazy whether they play video games or not. I'm pretty sure "cougars" go after younger men who actually pursue them, where "pedophiles" no matter the gender go after /kids/ whether they want them or not.
If I see another "men's rights activism" post I'll fucking scream. I'm sorry you feel like you're being oppressed when another group gets the same rights you've always had, but that's not how it works. Sure, there are double standards against men, but not nearly as many as there are against women. When women are assertive, we're bitches, when men are, they're bosses. When a woman sleeps with a lot of guys, she's a slut, when a man does it, he's a player.
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Career women still face wage gaps, glass ceilings, harassment, and tend to be seen as bitches rather than achievers.
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I'm not entirely sure what's going on with the cougar thing, but I suspect it plays more into a male sexual fantasy than the actual desires of older women. Women who go after minors are still seen as pedophiles.
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Feminism is a movement for equality, not female dominance.
I would also like to point out that not everybody shares the same mental image of gamers. Another stereotypical image is of a female "fat lazy sleezeball". In any case, the stereotypes aren't relevant. My impression of the original post was that it was trying to stifle feminism by promoting fear. (Ie. men should feel threatened by the empowerment of women.) This debate is getting too complicated for FS, so I'll leave off for the moment with this: Equity is one of the steps towards equality, not the final goal.
1. Women are still ridiculed for being "cougars" and dating younger women just as men are. So don't try that bullshit. Besides, unless the guy is going after minors, he's not technically a pedophile.
And what guy doesn't dream of some hot twenty-five (when he may forty) year old with blonde hair and big boobs?
Can I also state the controversy of the pictures? Okay, so for the cougars, they have a picture of a beautiful, but an obviously older woman. Classic "cougar" type. For the pedophiles remark they firstly have a of a guy who looks like he's in a prison jumpsuit (the orange shirt) and looks like he's having a mug-shot or something. The second one looks a creepy mad-scientist that would assault you.
So, yeah, if I saw those dudes going around eyeing up young girls, I'd call them a pedophile because they look like ones.
Anyways, the whole reason that girls have initially like older men is because
2. Okay, there are plenty of girl gamers and it's just that it's so rare that it makes it cool that a girl likes video-games. And I've honestly never met a guy without a Playstation or XBox or something.
I agree that men are generally more stereotyped on being a gamer, but that's not generally what I picture as a guy-gamer. I picture some skinny teenager in sweats and a hoodie playing World of Warcraft, jerking to each side every so often as a result of being so absorbed in a game. But it's only the idiots who think gamers are the overweight guys with towel-capes and play video-games practically as a living. So why the fuck is anyone listening
3. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME RIGHT FUCKING NOW. SOMEONE HOLD MY FUCKING WIG WHILE I FIND THE CREATOR OF THIS THING AND POUND HIS FUCKING ASS INTO THE FUCKING GROUND SO HARD THAT EVEN FUCKING CHINA WILL FEEL ME PUNCHING THIS MOTHERFUCKING ASSHOLE INTO THE FLOOR.
Women in business ARE called independent and strong sometimes, but most of the they're classified as bitches. Why? Because we have to act like bitches to get the men to listen to us and we have to be bitches to get to the top.
I will not count the times that a group of asshole men have laughed and snickered at me while I was making a presentation just because they thought I couldn't do it because I was some weak ass woman. The only way I got their fucking attention was to act like a motherfucking bitch.
Business is competitive as it is, the things you do are generally already labeled as bad, but if you're a woman and you really have to assert yourself because some jackass thinks you're incapable, then you
You think they want to act this way? No. I would much rather prefer to be all friendly and innocent and charming and easy like my coworkers, but a lot of assholes treat me like I'm less than them and I have to teach them wrong by being a bitch.
Not to motherfucking mention that it's still seventy-five cents to every dollar that a man makes. Is that fucking equal? Are you still complaining asshole? Not to mention all the blatant harassment. Especially if you're a woman in a workplace surrounded by men. Quite often, the harassment is made by your boss, as well. So it's not like you can do anything about it, lest you be fired. You just have to deal with it. And all the goddamn glass ceilings that prevent you from moving up just because you're a fucking woman. You know, I could go through so many more paragraphs describing the YEARS of oppression that women have suffered and the injustice they've gone through. But I'
So, really, I dare those men to go crying into their little mommies handkerchiefs about how hard it is to be a man. How sexism is making your life so much harder. Complain about all the hard double-standards and unfairness. But you know what? Don't go crying to momma, she'll tell you the same thing I told you. So go cry to daddy. Or, better yet, cry to yourself. Rock yourself to sleep with your little blankie, telling yourself that one day all the double-standards will be gone and that the world will be completely equal and that you just have to wait. I fucking dare you.
I remained anonymous just because I couldn't be bothered to make a long comment.
Look at the way they spelled 'eradicated'.