Lol, when our powers combined, who did we summon?

All the guest did was (rather brilliantly) quote his own words back to him. How is that being disingenuous? I definitely agree that no one is changing their minds, but if you cannot stand to see your own words quoted back to you, don't say them.

My Italian is very rusty- but "My love, my little bird" is something like "Mio amore, mio piccolo uccello."

I hear you *solidarity fist bump*

88% of anti-choice leaders are men, just like on this thread almost every anti-choice advocate is a man (I am betting white, between the ages of 16-30) because that is what the "Pro-life" movement boils down too. Men who will never be at risk for an unwanted pregnancy saying they know better than a woman herself what is best for her life. Better than her doctor, her family- that the government owns her fertility. And should she disobey, they want to make a criminal out of her, or physically force her to remain pregnant. Those are the choices. I see no respect for life there.

I agree, I am definitely starting to repeat myself as new people are coming to the thread, and that's tedious. So one more time- by telling Mgoveia I knew what clip he was referring to wasn't close to making a 'straw man' argument. But in retrospect, there are dozens of anti-choice leaders he could have been referring too, like so: http://liberal-agenda.com/most-ignorant-and-sexist-quotes-on-womens-issues-by-republicans/
When these are the people who actually move your movement forward, who make the laws you follow- they aren't insignificant or as extreme as you'd like to think. These are elected by your movement, your representatives. You can't distance yourself from them when they show their true colors

See? The politician couldn't answer the question either lol, it was a perfect summation of the anti choice movement in one moment. The irony here is pretty hilarious too, thanks Mike: http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/09/12/831151/state-rep-why-abortion/

I know just what you are talking about! That male Ohio politician who was asked by Rachel Maddow if he had ever thought of the reasons a woman sought an abortion- and he said it hadn't occurred to him. I almost broke my tv. Ohio, which has passed some of the most crippling legislation against birth control and clinics in the country, spearheaded by that man... grawr.
And I noticed that too- I thought it was just my tablet not letting me post from CC. Odd restriction...

Thank you for sharing your story, snopes, you are very brave to offer a personal understanding. I am glad things are better for you and I agree with your viewpoints.

It was actually a widespread epidemic of laws in states ranging from ultra conservative states to more liberal eastern ones- in the hundreds and hundreds. More clinics and centres closed this year than have any other.
And I have to disagree- the people here are mostly teens to young adults, right at those ages when you are figuring out social issues, getting a handle on where they stand. That is when I changed my mind on a lot of issues, because I saw people talk about them in real ways. You never know who is reading, and whose mind you could be changing. Besides, it's interesting to see what people think. **Here is a link, if anyone wants to check out the laws I am talking about: http://www.nwlc.org/resource/2013-state-level-abortion-restrictions-mid-year-extreme-overreach-women’s-reproductive-heal

^^That is very well said.

I do the same thing! I use a Burt & Bees balm every night, and I have been working on stopping on biting my lips. I quit biting my nails, lol, so this is one more quirk to overcome!

That is very interesting, thank you! And welcome, it's very nice to have you here :-)

I admire girls like you, lol, I bite mine all the time. Gloss or balm is constantly required.

I am sorry I posted something that has a Finish curse in it, lol, but that is brilliant! Guest, if you see this, how would you pronounce it?

Isn't that exactly what you are arguing? When the rights and personhood of a woman are trumped by that of her pregnancy? You need permission to collect organs from a cadaver, to use their body- and you are saying a woman has less rights to her body than a cadaver.

Lol, that's why they were squinting at Finland! That makes it so much better, lol