I respect my body, and I write on it all the time lol. A Little body art on this temple of mine just shows I like things festive :-)

I wouldn't agree with the statement that feminism needs to stop at all, I think Song is right. But mizulkal and guest, I would love to see some articles about white men getting their discoveries taken away by ANY disenfranchised minority. That is, a person of color, a woman, a trans* person, a person from a third world country....
I would like to see those stories.

There is no need to go there- just because people insult you or try to get you to get into some sort of immature name calling or insult jabbing- Don't lower yourself to it. It never helps anything, and only succeeds making you look small, like others who do that.

Charlie, another user and I just posted extensively proving guests 'off the top of his head' statistics to be not just wrong, but those of someone living in an imaginary dreamworld where he must never have to speak or deal with women to have even the glimmer of reality set In type of wrong.
Feel free to click on the link I provided, numerous sources for each fact is provided. All you have to do is click. I won't even make you "Eat a dick" As you so Freudianly say. :-)

You seem unwilling to admit your ability to have an impact and give an answer. You have an opinion on abortion that you are eager to share, and you can vote on abortion legislation- this makes you a judge of when it is a woman is committing a crime for seeking an abortion. That is what your votes on these issues do. I am asking you to tell me when, at what point are you willing to vote that a woman is a criminal- you have these opportunities, it's a real to life question. Haven't you thought about it?
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You say you are more interested in talking about whether abortion is moral, and let me tell you why I am not. Your opinion of morality does not interest me- it's most likely completely different than my own, and your view of how moral my or anyone's life is irrelevant when it comes to law. Your personal opinion as a man who will never experience this issue is not one I am interested in. The only way you effect this issue is with your votes. That is what I am interested in.

Absolutely rhetoric is not interesting to me, although I can see why you find it "not only interesting but extremely important and applicable." Rhetoric is defined as "language that is intended to influence people and that may not be honest or reasonable. (Merriam Webster)" It is just a ploy used to cover up the real issue, and therefore I find it of no value in real discussion, and want no part of it.
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I asked very clearly a question every person who says they are against abortion should be able to answer. If you want it to be illegal, when does it become a crime? When should the women be arrested? This is what anti-choice laws come down to- voting on when you believe abortion is a crime- when in your opinion, a woman has become a criminal for seeking an abortion.

You think squinting at a man's crotch like you are looking at a bug on his zipper is sexy? Because if that's the way to get a man, we need to tell the others

Look at the discussion, that is amazing! I appreciate your words, guest 1, and guest 2, I have an article for you which has multiple sources all cited and click ready- all you need to do is find the fact you are unsure of, click it, and you can see the sources: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/soraya-chemaly/50-actual-facts-about-dom_b_2193904.html
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I am concerned with how rare you seem to think rape is- I understand that you may not have a girlfriend to talk this issue over with, but you do have a mother. You should ask her (and any other women in your life) how old she was the first time she was harassed. Ask her what she does when she is out alone to avoid detection, to protect herself from being assaulted. Ask her the last time she felt safe in a public place alone. Ask her how she felt when she heard about her friend/neighbor/peer who had been assaulted, because we all know someone. I hope a conversation like this with a woman you care about will help you see.

Your wife knows about these challenges, she has lived them. And while you and your sons have challenges of their own, perhaps some progress could be made if you were to sit down and talk about what affected you as children, and how you both as parents can work to help your children through these problems. That way you can raise your children with the tools to avoid the pain you both experienced.

So I am guessing by your caps lock that you are angry. I can see that you have a hard job, and don't believe you are treated fairly- which I don't know your home situation, I can't tell you about that. What I would ask is that you look at this as if you had a daughter.
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Women and men have different experiences when it comes to how the are treated by the world at large- both cause pain, and both need understanding from the opposite gender. Your daughter has a 1 in 4 chance of being raped by the time she is 18, and an over 1 in 2 chance of being sexually harassed before puberty. Between the ages of 13-33, she is more likely to be killed by a romantic partner than any other cause. She's less likely to be hired, and when she is the wages are only 70% of her male counterparts.

You don't "give" people equality- you take away the discrimination and oppressive roadblocks that are in the way. No one "gave" the right to vote to people of color and women- they stopped the discrimination and oppressive laws that had been keeping them from their rights in the first place. I hope that makes sense- rights are rights because they exist beyond being given and taken.

And there are two kinds of people lol..

I am thinking you didn't see my response to you before since it got sort of carried away in the rushes of others, so I wanted to make sure to address it again. You can argue rhetoric all day- I am not really interested in that, nor am I that interested in how you as an individual "feel" about abortion. Like with other social issues such as homosexuality, if you are personally uncomfortable with them, that is your own business.
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What I asked you for was a clear definition of what should be legal regarding abortion. I want to know at what point do these personal beliefs and judgements you hold become votes toward laws, or (in a hypothetical world) morals you would turn into legislation. When is it that a woman who is seeking to end her pregnancy is committing a crime? Where is that line? If you can't tell me when abortion is murder, an actionable, punishable crime and should therefore be illegal- we don't have anything else to discuss.

I think McDonaldo's on the right track- at least at 14 they are starting to think about and question the social issues around them. It took me a few years to even care, let alone realize abortion, birth control, women's rights, and lqbtqi rights were all connected.
But yeah, those internet stories will get you every time, lol. Mgoveia, I saw this the other day and thought of you, and it fits this whole thread so well (and me too, cough) lol: http://m.funsubstance.com/fun/103056/not-now-woman-my-public-needs-me,/

All right, firstly I understand you are 14- when I was 14 I thought like you did too, so it would be hypocritical of me to have any kind of angry tirade towards you. You still have a lot of time to work out what you think about things, but I definitely think you can be spoken to like an adult as well.
When you say things like "I don't think it's right to kill a baby because it's not 'convenient' for the mum." I'd like you to think about what that means, because a lot of people say it. The implication is that women are vain, stupid, petty, and irresponsible creatures that will wake up at any point in their pregnancy and decide 'nope, no baby for me' and just frivolously go have an abortion. This is not the case.
Women don't carry a fetus for 6-8 months and decide one day to terminate to fit in a dress, they do it only with excruciatingly horrible choices, like a cancer diagnosis, or a catastrophic failure of fetal health. Not on a whim.

So adorable! I love the "Don't worry. I am here to save you!" look and pose lol

I am definitely going to talk to some more thread & fabric talented friends of mind about designing more anatomically correct pants. I think they would be a huge seller!