China has gathered multiple enemies in Asia, but they are also being supported by enemies of those enemies.
There's also the situation regarding the Chinese economy. There are multiple countries whose entire economy depends on Chinese economy.
A war is imminent, if not a war, then at least some sort of conflict, be it in boardrooms or in battlefields.

As long as it's not a Chihuahua, we are good. They can break a man.

Ay, cat guys are always fun to hang out with. They are chill just like cats. Dogs have too much energy. I cannot handle that

The Japanese not acknowledging their war crimes is deplorable and they still have to own up to that. The passing apologies by politicians gone by don't count. And a Neuremberg should've had taken place for the Japanese too. And it's weird how they weren't tried for war crimes and no reparations were issued to the Manchurians and Koreans. What they did in the entire South China region was horrifying, but I would still hold my ground about the nukes being unwarranted.
The nukes took 100k civilian lives, but they have lasting effects till today and a few more generations will experience them.

Japan was already backing out because of the Soviet Invasion. It was one of the most crushing defeats for Japan, they would've surrendered.
There were a lot of other solutions that were proposed, but the American people were all flared up because of Pearl Harbor and didn't want anything other than unconditional surrender. That's why the nukes went off. And it wasn't only just those 100k civilians who died, the nukes had lasting effects. People are still born weird in those cities.

I am not defending Imperial Japan, my only point is that the nukes were unwarranted.

I am not debating that, Alien is an amazing movie and Ripley is an awesome character, I am just saying that if it would've been released today it would've been called woke and Ripley would get called Mary Sue or just a plot device.
People correlate strength in female characters with masculinity. Ripley is peak masculinity, if there was even a throwaway joke about her being better than any man, it would be exactly the same thing that people nowadays dislike about "strong female characters".
Point being, Lady Bird from Lady Bird is as much an example of a strong female character as Ripley.

So we are being a genocidal apologists by condemning an action and you aren't being one by defending the same one? No one here is defending what the Imperial army did, everyone is aware of their horrors and what they were doing, the point is dropping two nukes in the middle of two cities is never justifiable. If America was so eager on dropping the nukes and stopping the war, they could've dropped it somewhere else with lesser casualties.
And yes the conversation at hand isn't about Nazis winning, it's about nukes being justified and people wouldn't justify them if it were them instead of the Americans who dropped them.

Let me put it this way, people wouldn't have the same tone if it was The Riech who dropped two nukes and ended the war. Then people wouldn't be justifying it.

Yes the new bombs the entire government knew what it can do. And no, we don't drop those bombs somewhere else where there wouldn't be so many civilian casualties, but in the middle of two cities.
And we are the sick fucks for saying that the people should have tried something else. And we all know that if they wouldn't have surrendered, another nuke would've been dropped, Downfall wouldn't have been the course of action, MacArthur already wanted to drop more.

Bruh, believe it or not, you are not the only one who took a history lesson here and chill out with the saviour complex.

So naturally the course was to drop two nukes on the civilians. This is a useless debate.

Ah yes, if we wouldn't have done that, then something else would've happened and I have no idea how cruel the Imperial army was, but you sure do. I wouldn't trade places with any of those similar to how I wouldn't trade places with a mother in Nagasaki, a kid in Hiroshima, a brother during those fire bombings. Because it was all cruelty.
We weren't talking about Brits and Churchill, but you did mention starvation and that was a statement regarding that and to point out that there was nothing good about that war. And millions of people dying of starvation in the country where the ruling country took so many of it's young men is "big whoop" to you? Damn dude, you must be tough as nails.