Vitaly Klimenchuk

vitklim


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Never thought of it that way 80 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
And honestly, the straight pride parade is not for pride. Or at least it is not why I support it. There is little pride in inherently being something. But I support it because it will make sjws of all stripes squeal in agony. How many hurt feelings will we rack up I wonder? I'll bet it will be in the tens of thousands.
Never thought of it that way 80 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
So yes, I would expect them to abide by the same public norms as all others. In private, I don't care. In public, and especially if you have the goddamn privilege of holding an event based on non-causal characteristic of yourself, you have a fucking responsibility. Just like do all other people.
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And yes, you can keep putting in little jabs in your arguments all you like, but at what point do you finally realise which one of us is arguing for people being treated equally under the law, and not being judged based on immutable characteristics?
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The issue of LGBT people not having equal rights under the law has been solved in our countries. So if you want to sort the shitty aspects of being gay in a non-western country, you're barking at the wrong crowd. And I will not be guilted by someone I have no control over being horrible to people based on their sexuality. Not my fucking fault.
Never thought of it that way 80 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
There is a difference between littering and performing openly sexualized acts. Conflating the two in any manner is utter dishonesty. It is also no less dishonest to conflate advertisements with the same thing. Bitch, if being gay could be openly monetized to sell shit, it would be done at the earliest possible moment. You are simply deflecting from the meat of the argument in order to avoid the discussion. Like you often do.
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But since I am unlike you, I will in fact do so. Because at the end of the day this just boils down to the question: "does your sexuality define you?". Does your identity, your inherent quality define your views, your worth, your outlook on life?
The answer is no. And by that logic, if one's sexuality is not causal, what makes them qualitatively different from other people? Fucking nothing.
White people can't experience racism 41 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
I'm just waiting until the word loses any meaning and the world is going to fall off a cliff into straight race conflict. It's like these people never read a history book in their life and can't think more than 2 steps ahead. The historical pendulum swings further every time it changes direction, and I can't even imagine the scale of the backswing this will cause.
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I don't think this is the only outcome, but holy shit, if this keeps going, we're going to have some serious issues later down the line, worse than even now.
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Never thought of it that way 80 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
Okay, let me counter this.
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Often times gay pride events are used to legitimize people acting like complete degenerates in public, performing things that would normally fall under "indecent exposure" three times over. Does the veneer of being disadvantaged in the past now give them license to violate societal norms in ways that would not be accepted if not for their privileged status? The answer is no, but they do anyway.
Literally, I would not have a problem with any of this if LGBTetc pride events were orderly, respectful and not completely fucking weird, bordering on illegal.
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I'm just going to wait until the straight pride parade happens, the pictures are out on the internet, and just make a side by side comparison of the two. Will make my point clearer than any words.
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Never thought of it that way 80 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
Is there then any problem with a straight pride parade?
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By your own logic, it is not taking anything away from a different community, and as such should be fine.
I presume you don't have anything against it anyway, so just confirming here.
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Land of the free 12 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
Yeah, I'm trying to see how this is relevant to anything. Lol.
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Land of the free 12 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
The fuck is this supposed to mean?
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The secret link between violence and video games 3 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
Ye.
But I get that it's for the joke.
The secret link between violence and video games 3 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
Then it would be more like "inspires"
Residents respond to call for blood in El Paso 6 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
I suggest whoever wrote that title to phrase it better.
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Huh. So, that's what "privilege" means 24 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
Briiiiiing on the shitstorm
For f**k sake 11 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
Those poor homeless! 3 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
Not if they don't count as people after that
Diversity for mee, but not for thee 56 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
I have no power to create social change aside from advocating for it. I don't broadcast to millions of people, I don't create the rules for online platforms based on my own morality, I have no institutional power to enforce social change and so shouldn't anybody else. If people listen to your message, they will change their ways, not force others to fall in line too.
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But the side you are closest to, does have that power. Online censorship, affirmative action, fake news, are all corrupted by the same ideology, being enforced upon those who reject it.
This is what I mean when I talk about authoritarianism. My ideology is based on freedom, so I would never trample someone's rights to achieve the change I want. Their ideology is based on equity, so they will trample someone's rights if they have to.
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What in the name of rating my old ass is going on here? 5 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
He rated that young ass, alright
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Diversity for mee, but not for thee 56 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
If your response is that it is no different, than answer me: Have we elected those who censor us from the biggest public platforms ever? Have we elected those who make news and movies? Have we elected those marxist professors that indoctrinate generations of weak, whiny, incapable people?
We have not. And I doubt that the question of affirmative action ever came up in campaign slogans.
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It is no longer about social pressure, it is about legal, cultural and social pressure of the highest possible order.
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Diversity for mee, but not for thee 56 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
Okay, so we are more on the same page than I thought then. So the question becomes: can you prove that the inequality of opportunity is the fault of the law? If the answer is no, too bad, you can't do anything.
And I agree that what you described is acceptable. But it's not what is happening. What we have now is a cultural infestation of institutions. Universities, governments, tech companies, media, need I go on? In each one of them there is an authoritarian ideological branch that is imposing or trying to impose their worldview on people who they have no rightful power over. This particular case is only a byproduct. The very fact that it is happening is a signal that this ideolody has overtaken so much.
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Big [w]oof 6 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
A lot is an understatement. What was it 83%? I think something around that number.
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I had about 60 notifs 27 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
Had 66
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Diversity for mee, but not for thee 56 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
No, we are precisely talking in the framework of law. Because it is the only thing that can be regulated. The moment you try to engineer society by forcing people through the force of government is the moment you become just another authoritarian monster.
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The procedure is the only thing that matters. Fuck the historical precedent and fuck the unequal representation. If a person right now can make it to the top through hard work, and many have, I don't care.
This is why statistics like "only X women as CEOs in the top companies" are fucking irrelevant. As long as there are some that made it, I don't give a fuck if that number is 7 or 50. As long as it is above 0.
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Diversity for mee, but not for thee 56 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
Find me a single law that exists now which discriminates based on race. One single law that exists now.
If you can't, then the procedure is fair. So I don't care if the outcome is not what you like.
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Diversity for mee, but not for thee 56 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
The only equality is that in the face if the law. So yes, removing those rules is enough.
And if you want a club of your own so badly, nobody is stopping you from creating one. The only unfair advantages that exist now are the privileged status of women and non-white people under the law.
Diversity for mee, but not for thee 56 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
So in your opinion to have equal opportunity some people need to get privileged treatment based on their race.
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Congratulations, you are a white supremacist.
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And I couldn't give less of a shit about the aggregate. The outcome is not important. The PROCESS by which the outcome is determined is paramount. If the process if fair, the outcome is also fair.
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Diversity for mee, but not for thee 56 comments
vitklim · 5 years ago
The soft bigotry of low expectations. Again.
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This is why it's completely hilarious when you hear the left trying to claim that their opponents are white supremacists. If they don't believe that people of all races can succeed on a level playing field, they are the ones who think white people are better due to their race.
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