I'm a little late, but I absolutely HATED how they turned the whole show around to be all about Ted asking his kids if he could date Robin. First of all, how many times did that not work and second, (and the main reason it pissed me off so much) remember that episode where Ted finds out his parents are divorced and they kept it from him for some odd years and he tells them how one day he's going to tell his kids every excruciating and minor detail about him meeting their mom, yet it just ended up being his way of trying to get his kids okay with him asking out Robin. I felt that that really tarnished the mom's memory, too, like she wasn't even worth having that story dedicated to.

It's an indian name.

I'm pretty sure shadow is talking about the KKK, not Anonymous.

Jmvail, I do think it just comes down to how people perceive these parts of the book because they'll pull out a lot of examples that me and you (and many others) wouldn't think are abuse. I just wish there wasn't so much criticism against this book and the people who enjoy it.

And you should respect that many people don't think it's an abusive relationship, especially when there are so many points that prove that it isn't. It's the continual "you can like the book but it is abusive" that frustrates me because I don't see it as abusive and I don't like people forcing that down my throat because I perceive the book much differently than them and I am not the only one that it could be argued that I am delusional.

But it was always sexual, even when he spanked her she was turned on and she liked the pain and pleasure aspect of it. Also, they end up changing a lot of what they're into for each other and find a balance they're both comfortable and happy in. But again, these are my thoughts and those are your thoughts. I'm just sick and tired of people saying my thoughts are wrong because the book can apparently only be perceived in one way. -_-

Look, after reading that article, I get why you think that it was rape. However, let me remind you that that person even said in the beginning that it's ok if you didn't perceive the scene as rape as it wasn't intended to be. Plus, this is what someone THINKS about the chapter and that scene, and I told you what I THINK about it. There were many points of hers that I disagreed with and I realize that different people perceive things differently, and you have to realize it, too. If I was in Ana's situation, I wouldn't have minded christian coming over and you can call me weak-minded or whatever all you want, but it all goes back to what people prefer. I still don't think he raped her, but I do get why it could be taken as rape. Have you actually read the book, though? Or have you gotten all your evidence from a site called "50 shades of abuse"? Because if I hadn't read the book, I would believe that to be rape, too. Reading that book, yes it was sometimes questionable about the abuse,

That I'm in denial? I gave actual facts, facts that were more exact than yours.
Plus, I even proved that you were wrong in the facts you used, by using her exact words.

These downvotes just show that people want to believe this book is about "glorifying abuse" when it really isn't.

Yes, agreed! And if she was to disagree with the compliment, she'd be fishing for compliments or called an attention whore. People saying she comes off as arrogant are wrong, she's just aware of her attributes and is proud of them, like people should be.

Ok so I already knew this, but I wanted to get exact. After she sends him the email saying it was nice knowing him, she giggles and it plainly says that she sent it as a joke, and I'm positive he understood that. Furthermore, he knew she wanted him because A) you can tell when someone wants you and when they don't and B) he kisses her first and asks her if she trusts him and she nods, explicitly stating that she's ok with having sex, not that her body is any indication. And the feet thing, the only reason she doesn't want them off is because, like you said, she thinks they're smelly & him threatening to tie her feet down didn't make her afraid. She's more worried about her roommate eavesdropping. That is not rape. The one time she says no and means it, he lets her go. She tells him not to touch her & he doesn't. And like I said, in the second book, they do what she likes for most of it until she convinces him that she's ready for the stuff he likes & even then he's refuses at first.

Ok when the fuck did she say no and he continued?? In the second book, they don't even have any kind of sex other than regular sex for a long time, until SHE convinces HIM that she wants it. He's happy to just have her with him. I really don't think you've read the book because christian is not manipulative or makes her feel guilty about his past. He literally doesn't bring it up at all until he has to because she won't stop pestering.

Whoa, I've read Fifty Shades and I never thought he raped her. I'd like to know when this happened, as I'm drawing a blank.

The ones in my city do, but I've wondered the same thing. A sign isn't going to stop criminals.

Since as long as I remember. Maybe it's not all theaters, but most have a sign that says no firearms allowed inside.

Yeah, that is what happened, and there's actually a few scenes they left out. XD

Not again with this shit

And if it was reversed and he'd given her an open handed slap for being a bitch? People would be cursing him out way more than they are cursing her.

There's a captain in there somewhere

It should just be an m

Yes, and presidents generally have things they want to change about them, causing them to go back to the Senate or Congress to be rewritten (or the Senate/Congress rewrites them for it to be passed again). Plus, you used FDR's first 100 days as an example and in our presidential history, not even 3/4 of the presidents were like him. We'd just be reduced to another era like that of the one-termers from late 1800s to early 1900s before Teddy came into office.

The fact that presidents try to pass them, maybe? And that they have a choice in whether they're passed or not?

But things are different now and it takes much longer to pass laws and acts nowadays.

Nothing would ever get done at all.