deleted · 5 years ago
How in the hell will you be able to get either of those?
dr_richard_ew · 5 years ago
Get the one with wheels
deleted · 5 years ago
If that’s what the dcotor prescribes then you have to do it, no but seriously don’t get a nice first car, especially something like those I mean, you’re gonna hit something probably, get a kinda shitty and very reliable car
internet · 5 years ago
if it's one of those I'm gonna get a used one
guest_ · 5 years ago
Money. How much do you have. Not like- to buy a car- total, ongoing. A car is an ongoing expense. A performance oriented car usually has some things to think on. Kids ran out and got the STI and EVO when they dropped back in the day. Come to find out those giant sticky Advan AO tires were almost $1,000 a set and didn’t last very long. Those brembos were $500-1000 for a break job. Turbo power is turbo money. You’re pumping premium 24/7 my dude, your oil changes and upkeep really matter, and a turbo system adds more parts to wear out and break while putting more strain on the driveline and power train. Throw in that turbo runs hot- it cooks hoses and wires and the like. Bottom line any performance car will require more money and effort to enjoy than some econobox. Your car stops being fun when you do t want to drive t because you can’t afford to put miles on it, or it starts falling apart because you aren’t spending $100 for hosed here and $80 on gaskets there.
guest_ · 5 years ago
For a first car think of it like this- it’s going to die. Almost certainly. You will kill it. There’s a high chance a first car will see its share of parking lot hits, curb rash, maybe an accident or two. You’re learning to take care of a car and drive it all at once. Make your life easy. Keep it simple. You don’t need loads of power or the best handling on earth because you can’t use it yet. Why throw a bunch of money away on a car that is years or more beyond your abilities as a driver? You’re paying for performance you can’t yet take advantage of. Get something with enough power you don’t hate your life. Anything around 2500-3500lbs with between 160-250 will be more than fast enough. Make sure it has good brakes and if you want to learn to performance drive that it handles well. Look up pricing for common wear parts and the things that model usually has go wrong and what they cost to fix. Your first car doesn’t have to be a total POS beater, but just get something decent.
guest_ · 5 years ago
You WILL make mistakes and learn. Do it on a car that isn’t as big a deal if you donsomehig really bad on accident. Give yourself a year or two to learn and grow, then look at selling it and getting something that will suit your growing abilities and changing tastes if you think you need to at that time. Between the two cars listed the Toyota is a marginally better choice, the backseat on the 86 is useless FYI, other than that as a daily driven street car they aren’t bad. Just prioritize finding a good solid car ok? You can get a clapped out E46 M3 for maybe $7k and have an icon of performance and style that is going to be falling apart and a ticking time bomb that needs $20k+ put in it to be a good car, or you can buy an old ladies church car accord for $7k and you’ll die before it does and it’ll be nice and comfy the whole time. Prioritize condition and remember you have to live with the car, not just the compliments.
captbojangles18 · 5 years ago
Taking all of guest_'s comments into account, I'd get the WRX over the STI.
The STI is really harsh, stiff, and uncomfortable, exspecially if it's going to be a daily driver.
captbojangles18 · 5 years ago
Honestly, as a first car, both are pretty poor choices. You absolutely WILL crash either of those. The brz/86 has rwd, which you'll spin when it gets wet. The STI has waaaay more power than you'll need, and is extremely expensive to operate and maintain.
captbojangles18 · 5 years ago
And actually, my recommendation for a first car is actually a Mazda 3. I had one recently and currently drive a Mazda 6.
Both 6 speed manuals. It's comfy, mechanically simple, handles surprisingly well, and I get 36-40mpg on regular gas.
If you absolutely have to improve the performance, get a new set of wheels with summer tires, them keep the stock all-seasons for the winter.
internet · 5 years ago
oh you don't have to worry about winter, usually it rains for a few days every year, and haven't snowed in the 18 years I've lived here
captbojangles18 · 5 years ago
Where is that?
Ok, so the rain isn't a problem, but I'm still not a big fan of the 86. The engine really only gets into it's power band if you rev it high. There is very little low end torque.
A friend has a WRX as a daily, and he likes it, but he does spend quite a bit on gas. He gets ~26mpg on premium.
Also, if you're 18, the insurance on either of those cars is going to seriously hurt...
internet · 5 years ago
I live in Dubai (which also means relatively cheap fuel), and most likely the insurance and the car are gonna be under my dad's name, but I get where you're coming from
internet · 5 years ago
What about the 2018 Camry?
anthracite · 5 years ago
Dang, dude. My first car was a Fiat...... Uno.
babyshark · 5 years ago
The 86 is the better choice, it's far easier to manage because it's pretty underpowered. If you were to push the STI to its limit you will find yourself in trouble.
raven · 5 years ago
Get the one that runs and you can easily fix by yourself. My first two cars you can fix and upkeep with a basic ratchet set and a jack
pokethebear · 5 years ago
Focus
captbojangles18 · 5 years ago
I have no opinions on the Camry. I'm sure it's a decent car that does it's job fine, but compared to a WRX/STI or an 86, the Camry is quite boring