Jobs bru. Hopelessly chasing the endless luring future, wanting to achieve something but never amounting to something, reaching out to aspire and get meaning, but in the end realising our lives and achievements are futile.

If it’s all futile, why not make the most of it?

Exactly what I am doing. Do everything, appreciate all the aspects, and have fun, we are all going to die anyway.

It’s an interesting thought. Where I live it can take 1/2 an hour to travel 10 miles on the 5 lane FREEWAY and that’s at 2pm on a weekday. There are a lot of people on earth. Each one living a life. Not everyone works 9-5 M-F, people go to the doctor, the mall, to interview for jobs, to walk in the park, to visit a friend, to surf, to dance class, etc. etc. we are all going somewhere, and usually even if the places aren’t exactly the same, millions around the world are probably doing what we are at any given moment. So it’s not all that strange when we realize just how many people are on the world. As to the discussion on life? Life is life. It’s what you make of it. You’re here- someday you won’t be. Try to enjoy every moment for what it is- even the shittu ones, and try to set up the future so you have the best odds of enjoying that too. Laugh, love, never take anything too seriously, you make moments, moments don’t make you.

@guest_ I agree with what you say, except that moments do make you. Every second of our lives we incorporate information and make it part of our memories, upon this we base new decisions, how we act, the kind of person we strive to be, the people we like, and much more.

I agree with you that every moment we are accumulating information and experiences that will shape us and did not mean to imply otherwise- however WHO that moment makes us is up to us. In a moment two people may both be cheated on. However the choice they make in what they do with that moment makes them- not the moment. They can choose to become bitter or cold, they can choose to forgive, they can choose to try and get revenge.... the moment doesn’t choose- they do. The moment is just where they decide who it is they want to be. Each moment is another choice, and choices we make over time not only create a pattern of who we are, but the choice we make helps determine what our next moment will look like, and thus what types of choices we will have to make next. A person who always finds themselves faced with terrible choices is often a person who creates those futures for themselves. That is the key of what I meant. In other words:

if You sat and did nothing in solitude for 50 years since birth (being somehow cared for) who are you? Millions of moments will have passed and not a single one will have made you, yet you exist. You are a person who does nothing. There’s likely more to you. If we introduced you to stimuli you could be forced to make choices. These choices would show you who you are. At any time you can choose differently. You could stop doing nothing 49 years ago. The fact you’ve continued to make the same choice shows it. The decisions we make impact the way the outside word sees us. If someone sees you shoot a dog, to them you are the dog murderer. If they were in your head they’d know you shot the dog because it was suffering and terminally ill- and you had no other more humane way to treat it. Who we are and who we are judged to be are not one in the same. But when faced with a choice- who you are will in part determine the one you make, and that event might cause you to make a change next time.

You make a very good point there. Also, most choices or decisions we make are based on what we thought - at that moment in time, with the information we have- will have the most desirable outcome based on whatever value we aim to achieve.

Agreed. We can, at any given moment, only make the best decision we can at that exact instant. So to your earlier point- we literally aren’t the same person one moment to the next, because the information we have and even our perception of it can change, which means that if we faced that exact moment in time again- we might not act or think the same way. Over many moments in the course of time, or through several intensely impactful ones, we are more likely to notice the cumulative effect of many small changes and see a large change. Seeing our actions and the effects that come after can fundamentally guide the way we perceive things, and thusly influence the decision we make next time. So perhaps it wasn’t a failure to meet minds- but just a slight variance in phrasing by each of us that led to misunderstanding? So perhaps what we both meant was: “through each moment we are changed, but the direction of that change is determined by how we process and interact with that moment”?

Yes, I believe so.

Indeed then. Good show.

Fun fact, I am in the train right now.