Why is it ok to make whole big white people posts? I'm in no way racist, but the hypocrisy of white people jokes being funny but jokes about every other race being racist really bothers me.
It may just be me, but I would have found this post to be funny even if the race had been reversed as well. As long as the circumstances were funny enough and I'm black. I also don't see the harm in making jokes about other races based on stereotypes, as long as it's not done with malice.
I think the article SaviourSelf posted is a great one, but this is a majority white site, so I am guessing most people didn't click through to read it. What white people need to understand while throwing around terms like racist and racism is that minority populations, people of color can have prejudices against white people, but there is not a whole system of oppression set up against them like there is people of color. That system of oppression is racism; there is no racism against white people only prejudices. Reverse racism is a ridiculous concept when examined: http://jezebel.com/5921999/how-to-be-a-reverse+racist-an-actual-step-by-step-list-for-oppressing-white-people
Are you fucking kidding me? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? Racism is not about "power", it is simply about differentiating between people based on their race (skin colour usually). So when a black person says they hate white people, that is racism too. It is not only white people that can be racist. If you think that, your mind has already been corrupted by the very poisonous propaganda aimed at white people. I would even venture to posit that black americans have become more racist than white americans (more black americans are racist against whites than whites are against blacks). How can anyone expect white people to fully accept black people when they continue to hate them based on them being white? How could anyone accept that kind of behaviour? It is a two-way street; if blacks treat white people with respect, whites will treat blacks with respect.
Thank you Bossy, and guest, I know you don't get notifications so the chances of you seeing this are small, but just step back and think for a second. As a white person, you never have to address racism, it never affects your life negatively. You don't have to deal with the implications it has. People of color do not have the power and control to create, perpetuate, and maintain brutal systematic racism to oppresses white people; that is not what our country was built on, and that is not how it works.
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When you say black people hate white people- that prejudice does not stop white people from getting hired, getting housing, being portrayed well in the media, etc. Therefore it is just a prejudicial view. When white people hate black people, there is a whole system of power in place to further disenfranchise and isolate them- that is racism.
I think you said it the best way yourself, however subconsciously. "How can anyone expect white people to accept black people..." That way of thinking, that "we" have to accept "them," that they have to become acceptable to us is part of institutional racism. This idea that white people expect black people to alter and change themselves to a set of "rules and codes" in order to "win our respect" is a deeply ingrained idea that's been there since segregation times.
I don't live in America dude. I live in the UK. Race is not a very common issue here, but I guess it still exists for some. Growing up I only ever met 2 black people (brothers) and became friends with them. They never talked about race, until one day after we had gone off to university the topic came up with one of them; but it was not what I expected. They said the only time they had experienced major racism, it had come from other black people ( although also some other minor racism from other non-white people such as shop-keepers). They had been accused of being "too white" because they had good grades. So the only racism they had ever encountered had come from people of their own race (or other non-whites as I said) and it was compelling them to be less successful otherwise they were a traitor to their race. As I said, I had very little idea about race issues since I had never encountered it, but that conversation made me realise that a lot of the issue is a........
.....pre-occupation with race, and usually exists very strongly only in those who believe they are being oppressed (in this case it was black people). This belief that you are being held back by an invisible hand is a pernicious cancer of the mind. In the UK, the definition of racism is the actual definition you can find in the dictionary i.e. prejudice against someone based on their race (especially skin colour), although the american sociological definition is starting to creep in sadly (racism is prejudice plus power). I say "sadly", because up to this point race really hasn't been a big issue for us here. Black people can, if they wish and try hard, reach the highest echelons of society and the best jobs, while living in the nicest suburbs. However many are choosing to stay in a self-imposed "ghetto" in places such as London and Birmingham. Hatred for whites festers in these places, just like it festers when blacks segregate themselves (debateable) in America. Maybe there..
....just isn't the same "institutional" racism that apparently exists in America, and we certainly don't have the same relationship with slavery that americans do. There could be a myriad of reasons for black/white racism, but I can't help but feel that saying whites are all racist because of the racist macro-culture is just not helping anyone. If I was being constantly reminded that I am a white racist and there is nothing I can do to change that fact, maybe I would eventually just give up trying my best to appear non-racist, and that wouldn't help black people in the long run. I don't see racism every day, which maybe makes it less of an issue in my mind. The last time I even met a black person in real life was 4 years ago. If I lived in America I'm sure my view might change if I witnessed black discrimination on a daily basis, but I don't live in America, and it is easy for me to point out what you seem to be doing wrong over there because I am so far removed from the realities
...of the problem. All I can see is that the problem doesn't seem to be going away with the current use of the definition of racism. Logically it seems to be a hinderance to progress because it differentiates between blacks and whites right there in the definition of racism=prejudice + power. Instead of arguing over a definition, I think you need to strive for a goal. And that goal should be equality of opportunity for all (not equality of outcome) and this includes poor black people and poor white people. White people will get on board when they see that what black people want is equality for blacks and whites, not positive discrimination. Also, whites don't want to be constantly reminded of slavery and how much guilt they should feel about it. They also don't want to be told that they are still benefitting from it today. Forget about slavery and move on. This is just my view, and it comes from someone with a university degree, but very little knowledge about racial issues..
....,so forgive me if you find this offensive. I just feel that blacks still harbour far too much hatred of whites for anything productive to be done about any inequalities. By the way I read the first link, and every single comment that was left (there were a lot) and still felt that the entire premise was missing something crucial. just my view.
... I'm entitled to my opinion, for one thing. Also, did you really scroll past the 4 or 5 page (? or is it considered a window?) comment regarding racial issues? Because that was a lot more serious than what I said. Further also, screw off. Don't like my comment? Just keep scrolling down. I like being able to express my thoughts amongst a community of people that are generally very level headed and considerate so that I can maybe see someone else's opinion. FS is great for reasonable discussions about all matters funny and serious.
1196-1. This post makes me sad. Like guest said, malice is taking over FS. It is called Funsubstance, not white people only substance. If we are going to make racist jokes it may as well be about all races so that the creator makes a racist joke about himself.
I'm popping back into these comments late, but I wanted to point out that I do find the post amusing (especially the last picture), it just kind of bothers me that no one gets all up in arms over a picture showing white people being stereotypically white, but it's generally frowned upon to do the same with any other race. Not trying to be a downer I've just had a few situations where this has been an issue lately. That being said, I'm sorry if my rants bother or offend anyone!
I do understand what you're saying but I don't think the pic is pointing out anything stereo typical of the white race but simply indicating situations where a black person has conducted differently from a white group of people
I see that. I probably took it a tad bit too seriously, as I do tend to feel strongly about even funny things that hit close to home. And it didn't help that I've found this site in particular to be a place where it's generally ok to speak freely as long as it's being done in a reasonable way. Racial issues have been a huge topic at work for me lately so I'm feeling vocal about the subject. Thanks for not attacking my jumping the gun-nesss. :-)
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When you say black people hate white people- that prejudice does not stop white people from getting hired, getting housing, being portrayed well in the media, etc. Therefore it is just a prejudicial view. When white people hate black people, there is a whole system of power in place to further disenfranchise and isolate them- that is racism.