You so rarely see 9/11 with racist jokes, domestic violence with rape jokes, all rounded off with homophobic jokes. It's great to know that is your sense of humor.
mrssparklez, while I don't like this post, I just wanted to say that I know all the other good stuff you've posted. And since you apologized and explained this was a way to show the comments, not show approval of them, I just wanted to say that everyone posts something every now and then that doesn't go over well and no hard feelings. Good luck with all the crap you're getting from this and keep going!
Yeah, if I didn't find it offensive, I probably wouldn't have put the warning, but then again, I wouldn't have even posted it, so I sincerely apologize.
I mean yeah, damn right this is fucking offensive. I get it. I regretted the moment I posted it, but whatever, apparently you can't delete posts. I was just trying showing what the internet in general has become. I don't know. Just thought I'd share what is apparently funny to other people. I get that guest. ^^
Seriously? Families burned sliced, women raped while their husbands watched, children gassed after being experimented on... That is what makes kids laugh? That is hilarious, genocide is funny.
Really disappointed in you, Sparkles. I hope other minority funsubbers and ones that have been victims of rape and domestic violence are paying attention to what you find funny. I will definitely think twice the next time I like anything of yours.
Okay, let me first say that having worked with survivors of domestic violence and sexual assault my entire adult life I know how deeply offensive and triggering this humor can be, and I respect everyone's right to feel offended.
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But for a moment I think we need to remember that as a society, especially our younger members are conditioned to think of this sort of humor as "edgy" and "cool," especially on the internet when there is no face, no actual person to see their reaction. You are virtually anonymous, with no real repercussions.
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I think this was a mistake on Sparks part, and one we all have made in one way or another. If we're as open minded as we credit ourselves for, we should give her the benefit of the doubt, and move on. I doubt this is a sign of her character or anything that would have happened offline- she's apologized and expressed regret. Let's move on.
Yes. I can't even stress how apologetic I am, but, people won't move on, and I just want to get over it, but I can't, knowing that I'm upsetting so many people. It's upsetting me. I didn't mean to offend anybody, honestly. I knew that it would, and I really don't know why I posted this, a lot of people liked it in the past, and I don't know what got into me that would make me think you guys would. I've grown to know you guys as well, and damn. I hate myself enough. More than all of you guys combined, so just let me hate myself, rather than you hating me, because I've lived through my own hatred, I don't need your's to add on. Also, although now it is irrelevant, I invited a friend from the outernet and left my laptop unattended. I don't expect you to accept my apology, I just want to get over this.
Don't apologize. People get butt hurt over everything nowadays. Hell I live in a broken home. Single parent home. No father. Seeing my parents constantly fight when I was little. Always having to leave home n stay in hotels since my mom and dad would fight so much. And I'm a minority. I find this funny. So fuck all of you for saying you've worked with people thatve gone through shit and find it offensive. I find it hilarious and I've gone through hell my entire life. People can't just get over shit. It's a joke. I'm Hispanic and live in a single parent home and have always had a rough life and I find this HILARIOUS. And before you idiots go off on sparklez. Take time to read my name. I'm not her. I'm someone different. All you stupid fucks.
What's worse than ten dead babys in a trash can?
A live one at the bottom.
How about
What's worse than ten dead babys in a trash can?
A dead baby in ten trash cans.
Man the fuck up and take a joke.
Again this isn't the actual sparklez.
Guest I could give a shit what you say. I'm giving my point of view. Showing how just because something bad happened to someone doesn't mean it's offensive and something to get angry about. It's a fucking joke. I don't care if youve worked with people that've gone through shit if you haven't gone through stuff like that yourself. You have no right to pass any kind of judgement so just fuck off and leave sparklez alone
I love you. ^ I was hungry, and when it was my lunch break I didn't feel like eating because I felt like shit. Thanks, you may have just saved a person's life.
Don't worry what these people say. They've got nothing better to do with their worthless lives than try to make other people feel bad.
Hey Guys how about this one.
Why do black people only have nightmares?
Because we shot the last one who had a dream.
Oh nice, saviour stands up for sparklez and the other sparkles is like "It's a fucking joke. I don't care if youve worked with people that've gone through shit if you haven't gone through stuff like that yourself." Lol, I bet you feel like a fool for saying anything now, huh?
Nah mrrsparklez. I agree with you it's just friggin jokes. Everyone make jokes that is offencive to someone, but what if I told you that's exactly why it's funny
This guest is stupid. He doesn't get that I'm saying if you haven't personally went through something hard like the people he's "worked" with or whatever you don't even have the right to say anything.
And saviour said she made a mistake in posting it. In which my reply was. No she didn't. It's a fucking joke. I'm glad she posted it. Shows how many pussys frequent this site.
^^^Proves it perfectly. I respect what you tried to do, SS, and the work you do, but the absolutely shows their character. If you laugh at racist jokes, you find racism funny. If you laugh at rape jokes, you find rape and violence against women something to minimize and mock. Don't waste your time defending cruelty.
You guys know this is FUNsubstance right? If you're going to get offended this easily, I don't think the internet is the right place for you. Sparkles, I don't think you should apologize because you didn't do anything wrong. Its called dark humor people. Laugh or move on.
Just to clarify, it was Mrssparkles I was backing up on her own words of apology and regret for posting this, way up early on the thread. I do believe someone sincerely apologizes, they deserve a second chance. I stand by my comment at the time it was made.
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I don't feel the need to defend myself or my work, but it's worth noting 1 out of every 4 women and 1 out of every 9 men are sexually assaulted by age 30, so saying that only personal experience validates offense is like throwing a rock into a river- everyone is touched by this crime and its ripples. If you have not personally been, count yourself very lucky.
Calm, I know what you're saying, but it's kinda my personality. I can't really make it through without knowing everybody's happy, but yeah, I guess the internet just isn't the place for me. Could we just set this behind us, you guys?
I know people who have been sexually assaulted. People close to me. Why the fuck do you think I said the rape jokes are too far. Nothing but idiots I swear. And everyone is racist to some degree I believe. Wether person or just ethnicity. Hell I make Mexican jokes, black jokes, white jokes, everything. And I'm fucking Mexican. The difference is. I know when to stop joking and be serious. Apparently you all think if someone finds a racist joke funny they're automatically a full blown racist. Hell me n my friends make Mexican jokes at each other and we fucking laugh our ass' off. But we know when it's either too far or just not the appropriate time. And ill laugh at whatever the hell I want. If someone's says something about black people and chicken ill probably get a chuckle out of it. One of my best friends is black and we would still make jokes about him just like he would about us. But we knew what things went too far. You people are so fucking over sensitive it's sad.
...This is the first time I have ever seen a racist person full on admit they were racist. Well done dude, me n my friends will just stay the fuck away from your backwards ass from this point on. You be racist and proud!
Ugh people are so stupid.. Just stop. Every argument I've had with anyone on this site I've managed to poke holes in all of your pathetic attempts at an argument. And you're racist too. Wether you think you are or not. Somewhere in you, you are. Even if you just choose not to expose it now
I still can't believe this is a hot button issue its the internet you find stuff like this all the time. Sparkles doesn't need to apologize for what other people did. People have their preferences and if you don't like a joke its best to just ignore it and move on and people shouldn't bash on other people for what they posted it is something they wanted to share and I bet you some actually got a kick out of this post (uh long winded opinion over)
I mean, it does seem as though you guys are overreacting a bit to this. Saying that just because someone laughs at some dark humor means that they would enjoy it if the actual content of the joke played out in real life is ridicules. By that standard, I would never again be able to watch a comedic movie that also had violence in it because I'd be telling the whole world that I think violence is totally okay. The simple fact is there a difference between laughing at something in a joke or movie and actually condoning the subject matter in real life. Intelligent people can usually separate the two.
No problem. It just seemed like everyone was ganging up on you for a totally illegitimate reason. Especially that guest. How did he/she even see the post? I had to make an account just so I could see what all the fuss was about...and I wasn't disappointed.
That's what I was just thinking about too how can guests argue if they can't even see the posts? Besides the post wasn't even that bad its the internet I've seen worst things
Not that it matters too much anyways. Some of the guest's posts were so ridicules that I nearly laughed. When they said that if you laugh at racist jokes that you automatically think that real world racism is funny too, I stopped taking him/her seriously at all. That's like saying that everyone who likes playing GTA also enjoys real world murder and theft; that's definitely not the case, and it's stupid to act like it is.
I didn't take the time to read all these so if it was mentioned then sorry, but this was posted a little while ago and you know what we did? We went with it. We joked with it, not exactly with it, but we added to it. I don't know what the hell happened to all the users who are on here now but damn. If you don't like it, just go to the next post, it's not for you. Everything on the internet is offensive to at least one person. But we still joke about everything. Like the fucking pedo bear.. I'm pretty sure you can figure out who that's offensive to but you don't see anyone causing a fuss about it like most of you on this post. Calm the fuck down guys.
That's right, don't take the time to read the whole thread, because now your the people backing up the guy who was ranting "You're all a bunch of n*gger f*gs" and talking about how he's fine being 'a little racist'. That doesn't make you seem like the naive ones at all. Seriously, read the whole thing or don't comment. We're already grossed out.
First of all I didn't say I backing up anyone. If you would actually read my comment and understand it you would know the only thing I was saying is that y'all have taken this POST to a ridiculous level. Secondly, you're already grossed out? Then just stop reading. Click the button that says "unfollow comments" and move on with your life. And also, I hope the next time you see an even somewhat racist joke or any level of offense joke at all for that matter, you batter the hell out of it with all of this. Because if you didn't, you would be a hypocrite.
Yeah prankster, everyone knows the way to deal with any kind of racism is how these guys are doing it- just like they are dealing with homophobia and rape jokes. You convince one another it's no big deal and that everyone should laugh it off, that the people who are offended (you rape survivors or LGBTS, tsk!) are just WAY too sensitive, and it's actually cool to be cruel. Because standing up and caring about anything is for the weak.
I am disappointed. I would have thought you knew that. Peer pressure, prankster. Laugh it off!
It seems as if the same four people are really hurt by this post/these comments. And that the same four people are the same ones blowing things out of proportion and assuming things out of what people say. You make me laugh. You're actually pretty ignorant with all the "trying to say all this "deep" stuff to get likes" stuff or whatever it actually is you're trying to prove. Quit trying to "read between the lines" and assuming things. The actual intellectual ones really know what's happening here. And go ahead and try to say that we're trying to convince you that rape and racism is alright when in reality the only thing we're or at least I'm saying is that a joke is a joke. Quit trying to make it something that it's not. And stop being a guest, how about you stay signed in next time you want to comment or do you not want anyone to know who's really saying all this stuff? Hmmm. You're pitiful.
I agree. And again. No one hear has actually said anything about rape jokes. The only thing I said about it was that they're not in the best taste. There's a difference between being racist and thinking a joke is funny. You obviously don't have a sense of humor. No one hear is defending homophobia or racism. There's a difference between joking and being for real. You obviously don't get it. And it's so sad that there's people here down voting people who are speaking the truth and with some sense in their head. And up voting everyone who are actually bashing the rest of the people who are speaking their opinion and having an actual intelligent argument. When in fact the people having an intelligent argument have not insulted anyone except you're pathetic attempts at an argument
I took your advice and made an account! And as a biracial woman who has been sexually assaulted, that was a really satisfying trip through the comments. I feel better now. Those of you who stood up for survivors like me made my whole day, thank you. I hope you see this and know your words mattered to me. Peace (-!-)
I do have one question that was never answered. How is laughing at dark humor bad? Just explain it to me. As I see it, if you're going to call out people who laugh at dark humor because the subject of the jokes is terrible in real life, shouldn't you also be calling out people who like violent movies or violent video games? If you like violence in movies then obviously you're some kind of psychopath who enjoys murder and death in real life too, right? At least, that seems to be what you're saying.
Can you explain to me where my flaw in logic is?
I'm glad that you're a strong woman who survived sexual assault, but just because someone laughs at these jokes, doesn't mean that they want to personally rape you.
It still surprises me that people defend their right to laugh at rape, because I know in essence you probably aren't a bad person- but when I hear you saying your right to "dark humor" and to normalize and victimize survivors like me, your right to have a laugh is more important than my (and 1 out of 6 of all women who are raped) right to feel safe, I wonder. I'm not going to defend my right not to be triggered, not to hear the worst part of my life made into something for a chuckle- but if you are really interested, this article is short, to the point, and has links to learn more. I won't be back to check this thread: http://psychopixi.com/politics/rape-culture-why-rape-jokes-arent-funny/
LISTEN YOU TWAT. NO ONE HERE HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT LAUGHING AT RAPE JOKES. I FUCKING CALLED IT OUT SAYING THEY'RE BAD. It's good that you're a survivor but shit. No one has said anything specifically about rape jokes
I just don't think some of the people that are on this site, should be on this site. I've seen many many posts since I've been here, almost a year, and that I've never seen such a bigger fuss than this. I've seen this reposted at least twice. I've seen worse posts than this when it comes to what you all are saying. This post has almost 900 likes.. Let that sink in for a minute. You all are obviously thinking we're bad people for simply stating that a joke is a joke, when over 800 people think the same thing but don't care to say anything. At least the case with me and some others are we're just trying to say that you shouldn't think that people are racist or think rape is funny because of liking a post that happens to mention it in there. Like I said, a joke is a joke and that's all I was trying to say until you took it out of hand and blew what I was saying out of proportion and insinuating things. But think what you want. I know the truth when it comes to what I believe in.
Honesty if I were you, I'd just stop. They're gonna downvote you now no matter what you say. If you apologized, you would still be down thumbed to shit just because of your previous comments. I'm already getting downvoted on a bunch of unrelated posts for no reason and I think I know some of the people who are doing it. These people don't like or dislike based on a comment like they should. They do it because they don't like you.
Haha, I know. I don't care about down votes. I'm being down voted too on other posts because of the same reason I'm pretty sure. It just goes to show you how immature people can be.
I am so, so sorry. I'm so sorry. I actually cried a little while reading this. I...don't know what to say. Mr and Mrs Sparklez, don't be sad. These IDIOTS will never know how ....Much they actually hurt US. These are jokes, for God's sake! Did we EVER say : 'Oh and I seriously mean it. I really hate nigg*** blah blah, I think racist jokes are funny, blah blah, fat peaple are stupid, blah blah, and rape jokes are the best!' . DID WE EVER? ANSWER ME YOU ASSHOLES. Just....sigh.... I'm sorry guys, and I don't care if you downvote me. I just spoke what's true. I'm not racist or anything at all, so please. This site was made for JOKES AND FUN, but just look at us now. I guess I should just stop now, and sorry, I haz no brownys enneymoar cuz I'm sad.
I don't see what all the fuss is this is the internet if you get offended by mere jokes (and you know they are jokes) that's not a good thing. Like they've said before if you haven't gone through any of this you have no right to get pissed at it. Mrssparklez was trying to show something funny and there you all are judging her for one thing she did.
You know you're on the right side when you're defending racist jokes with more racist jokes, attacking a rape crisis counselor, and the homophobic slur crowd is backing you up.... Yikes....
Why are you offended by the word "faggot" but not by the jokes made at the expense of gay people? I'm curious, they both show homophobia, why dislike one but support the other?
No, because when you are laughing at the expense of gay people, what do you thin you are doing? When you find homophobia funny, you give it value, and you are saying it's not such a bad thing, it's even entertaining. There isn't a difference.
I don't know what I think about homophobia. But the word faggot I could see being offensive depending on its use. I'm not trying to start anything here. But I've used it too. But I know it offends my friend when I say it around him because he's gay. So it's more of a time of use that makes it offensive. My opinion anyway. Continue.
No, I don't. My sister is gay, and I have watched her deal with all types of homophobia- from slurs to discrimination, the whole gauntlet. Jokes about her sexual identity, made at her expense hurt her, I know they do, I have seen it personally. So even if I send you websites showing the effect racist, homophobic, and misogynist jokes have on people, I still can tell you personally homophobia is not funny. You may think so because you laugh, but it's not. Hopefully you'll learn that someday, and homophobic jokes will become as offensive as faggot, dyke, etc. Because they are.
Well I still find some humor in it. I guess. Idk I don't really care one way or the other. I just know some stuff can be offensive. But some jokes are just that, jokes. Idk but I think gay people are some of the coolest people. Hell i go to my friend for fashion advice lol
They may be offensive at some point, but if you know how to take a joke and know when to stop a joke that's gone too far and maybe apologize you have to let that person go. Personally I know how much it hurts to be called names but at some point you just have to learn to deal with it.
Of course homophobia is not okay. But theres a difference between trying to hurt someone and trying to be funny if the gay person knows you don't mean it.
I make gay jokes at my friend and he just calls me an ass lol he knows how to make jokes back tho so it's fine. I just know using "faggot" means you have to show that you don't mean it in a bad way. Or don't use it at all. Fag is a little more acceptable but still kinda eh
Because when we say fag we never mean it about my friend. He's friends with my other friends too. We make jokes but we don't call him a fag. We call one gay kid fag. Because he's 1. Gay 2. Acts like a girl and 3. Is an asshole to people. And it's as easy as saying you're just joking. If you really are just joking they'll know you are
Mrr, I am not sure how old you are, but it is not acceptable to be a "little racist" or homophobic and throw around slurs and jokes like you are. You need to reread what you have written and see that any credibility that any of your friends on this thread had you have completely shattered. You are supposed to recognize these prejudices and shortcomings in yourself and work to change them, not be proud of them, or try to justify them. We work to be better than the generation before us, not work to be accepted as worse.
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I think anyone who sees this thread gets a good image of dialogue and what was trying to be achieved, and I suppose that is the best we can hope for. Thanks to everyone who tried. -+-
I see no problem in how I am. Because no matter where you go there's going to be someone who thinks the same. Wether joking or not. I myself have nothing against gay people but will joke about it. The friends I'm talking about Sony even use this site. And I think I'm fine the way I am. I'm not prejudice but so find "racist" jokes humorous. At the same time you could simply call racist jokes simple stereotypes. And I could care less about credibility. Most of the people on this site make me sick except for a select few. It's so hard to have an intelligent conversation here. Everyone just gets mad. No one knows how to have a discussion without throwing out insults. So sad. Maybe if people knew how to have a discussion you could get a better point across and have an actual conversation where people take what you say seriously.
...is this guy for real? Please tell me he is like MsSparklez alter ego account or something, and this is all an inside joke..... a really bad inside joke.... save my belief in humanity....
Mrr, I like you. Personally, I think all this is turning into a waste of time. Clearly, we will never remove the sticks from these people's butts. Shall we take leave of this particular string of replies to save ourselves from being shamed for our opinions? I shall abandon these people and keep making jokes and would like you to join me.
Seriously, take your gay slurs and racist jokes elsewhere, that would make everyone happy. Go have a little Bigots R Us meeting and laugh about how cool it is to mock gays and make racial stereotypes.
I used this form to report him, you can also click over to his profile and click "Report User" for profane racist and homophobic language. It just takes a second.
http://m.funsubstance.com/page/contact/
Hmm maybe racist jokes yes. But if you have been reading anything I've said. I'm quite fond of gay people. Some of the coolest people. If you're Gona report me I think it'd be better if you told the truth ;)
The screenshot is already sent to the admin of this site. So delete your hate speech rants all you want, they have it. Hopefully they'll act on it within the next few days.
Screen shot whatever you like. I'm not taking anything down. I just figured my recent one was a bit far. Not trying to hide anything. And yes calm. I've been down voted for saying gay people are cool and that rape jokes are bad. Ah gota love this site. By that logic. A lot of people here like rape jokes as well. Quite sad
I hope the admin reads the conversation to see how ignorant you all are c: bashing someone who's just giving their opinion. That's really being a good person <3
Sigh. Well, I think I'm going to take leave of this post in order to preserve my star. I would like to thank you all for this experience; never before have I talked to such closed minded people. Say what you want and surely will about me aftertaken gone. See y'all later!
No. Stahp it right now. You can't please everyone. Especially on the Internet. Just focus on being yourself. Be nice but be yourself. If they don't like it to bad for them
I don't have either the time nor do i fucking care enough to read what you guys wrote... I was going to make an offensive joke, but i don't want angry amuricans licking my ass while i masterbait
You just made me look through all these (comment received too many negative votes.. Show comment) to finally find yours and wow. Waste of my time. But I did get a laugh at how many "comment received too many negative votes" there were on this particular post. It has to be a record of some sort.
I just think it's funny how people down vote you for what you have said rather than what you say. I believe a term for it is bias. Which is never a good thing.
...so stars highlight the bigots here, is that what I am learning today? Then how did the rape counselor get one, does she kick children for fun or something?
People who are getting offended,
A) There's a warning. B) You're on the internet.
That's just it.
Sparklez is making a point, and she's right about it. This is pretty much what a lot of the internet in general has become. :/ Don't be a jerk about it to her, for bringing up something we all know is true, but choose to ignore.
Going into how wrong some of these jokes are is pointless. Do you honestly think the people who made them don't know what they're saying? Or care, for that matter?
If you're truly offended by what these comments say, do something real about it. :/ You can't just comment again saying, "Oh how offensive!" That's like if I stab you in the leg and all you say is 'Ouch!'
Really disappointed in you, Sparkles. I hope other minority funsubbers and ones that have been victims of rape and domestic violence are paying attention to what you find funny. I will definitely think twice the next time I like anything of yours.
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But for a moment I think we need to remember that as a society, especially our younger members are conditioned to think of this sort of humor as "edgy" and "cool," especially on the internet when there is no face, no actual person to see their reaction. You are virtually anonymous, with no real repercussions.
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I think this was a mistake on Sparks part, and one we all have made in one way or another. If we're as open minded as we credit ourselves for, we should give her the benefit of the doubt, and move on. I doubt this is a sign of her character or anything that would have happened offline- she's apologized and expressed regret. Let's move on.
A live one at the bottom.
How about
What's worse than ten dead babys in a trash can?
A dead baby in ten trash cans.
Man the fuck up and take a joke.
Again this isn't the actual sparklez.
Hey Guys how about this one.
Why do black people only have nightmares?
Because we shot the last one who had a dream.
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I don't feel the need to defend myself or my work, but it's worth noting 1 out of every 4 women and 1 out of every 9 men are sexually assaulted by age 30, so saying that only personal experience validates offense is like throwing a rock into a river- everyone is touched by this crime and its ripples. If you have not personally been, count yourself very lucky.
I am disappointed. I would have thought you knew that. Peer pressure, prankster. Laugh it off!
Can you explain to me where my flaw in logic is?
I'm glad that you're a strong woman who survived sexual assault, but just because someone laughs at these jokes, doesn't mean that they want to personally rape you.
^^
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I think anyone who sees this thread gets a good image of dialogue and what was trying to be achieved, and I suppose that is the best we can hope for. Thanks to everyone who tried. -+-
http://m.funsubstance.com/page/contact/
me!?!
A) There's a warning. B) You're on the internet.
That's just it.
Sparklez is making a point, and she's right about it. This is pretty much what a lot of the internet in general has become. :/ Don't be a jerk about it to her, for bringing up something we all know is true, but choose to ignore.
Going into how wrong some of these jokes are is pointless. Do you honestly think the people who made them don't know what they're saying? Or care, for that matter?
If you're truly offended by what these comments say, do something real about it. :/ You can't just comment again saying, "Oh how offensive!" That's like if I stab you in the leg and all you say is 'Ouch!'