No because plenty of woman I know don't wear makeup and they're gorgeous. I can't stand it when I can see that area on a girls jaw line that shows their face is a different color than their neck. Less is more.
So.... You're implying that a woman who wears makeup is not gorgeous without makeup? That sounds kinda like what guest said..... Women wear makeup because men say we're ugly without it.
Dear God. I was simply saying that the guest above me was wrong in the sense that most men wouldnt flip out or bitch and moan because a woman wasn't wearing makeup. Don't take my comment out of context. Then,again I see your user name so here we go...
*shrugs* Okay, whatever you say. But you can't deny that this society pressures women to wear makeup by setting up impossible standards to face in the media, in ads, etc, while men typically can get by with no or little makeup in said media.
Very true. But I believe times are changing and most men who are not shallow appreciate the beauty of a woman with or without makeup. At least I know I do. But putting all men under the category of shallow pricks who only see women as trophies in their game of numbers laid pisses the rest of us good guys off.
When men see ads with attractive men in, it mostly makes us want to improve ourselves, financially and physically. When women see ads with beautiful women in, they shut down and refuse to improve themselves out of sheer stubbornness. Can you see a difference little miss feminazi? No wonder women don't mature beyond the age of 18 as far as men are concerned.
Not only was that extraordinarily incorrect, it was really mysogunistic. You just claimed that men look at women as stubborn, that we "shut down" instead of improving ourselves, and that women are immature and don't ever mature beyond 18.
You just said more about who you are then I think you want the world to see of you.
If you can't treat others with respect, you don't deserve it. You sir, are a mysogunistic ass.
"Not all men are jerks but all women are treated poorly by men." I have to say, feminazi, I don't agree. It's not a women vs men problem. It's a jackass vs good people problem. Jackasses will use whatever they can to stand on others, and to defend themselves and their selfish actions. Misogyny, racial predjudices, homophobia, and even religious hatred, all come from te same ideology that some people are "better" then others. And these jackasses believe that they really are better. Which is why they fight so hard to keep things the same, to keep their "status" above others. Men are not the problem, jackasses are. So don't assign all men as the problem when there are women who are also jackasses.
I'm not saying that??? I'm saying that all women are harrassed and made uncomfortable daily by men? Most men don't; most men are kind and good people. Are any of you women?? Can you really say that women don't get harrassed?
One in four women are RAPED in their lives. Every woman who walks alone on the street is afraid of rape and harassment. Catcalls follow us wherever we go. I'm not invalidating male experiences, I'm not saying women don't do awful things to men, but I'm saying that all women face pressure and harassment from men.
My ex husband was abusive. He resents our daughter who was born disabled. He's chosen not to pay child support or spend time with his children. I know firsthand how destructive a misogynist can be. But I still refrain from blaming men for his actions. Bein male is not why my ex treats myself and his daughters poorly. He does it because he is selfish and narcissistic.
I've met far more men that were great people then were jerks. I feel it's unfair to place the blame on those that are good, simply because they are also male.
If we want change, if we want the world to be safer and better for all women, we need men to help. We can not change the world by fighting against men, we need men and women to support each other to enact the change we all need for a better society.
We never said that women don't get harassed, Feminazi. It is a very real problem, I agree, but I also don't think that you can speak for all women. There are plenty of women (the ones who say "I'm a woman and I think feminism is stupid") who wouldn't say they're mistreated. Whether they actually are is debatable, but saying that all of anything does anything is a logical fallacy, because you don't know all women and you can't speak for their experiences. I'm a feminist myself, and I definitely agree that something needs to change. My grandfather molested me for years, and until he took it farther, I didn't even realize he was doing something wrong. I thought it was completely normal, even though it made me uncomfortable. My best friend was raped when she was just 14, and everyone accused her of lying. I will never say there isn't a problem, but I will say that I don't know about all women, and I can't speak for them, just for a great number of women.
I sort of get it. women (of which I am one) do tend to change themselves physically, but I wouldn't call that a lie, it's more a self-confidence thing for most people. Yes men lie, but so do women.
The male equivalent would be an arrogant dick that flashes cash he doesn't have and brags about conquests he never engaged in. This is the same moral bankruptcy as those fake women, and the sort of behaviour that decent men don't condone. However, most women condone other women lying to men; I sense a hint of hypocrisy. . . .
No, you just look at women as liars. You see men as better then women. You have made sweeping allegations based on nothing but a superiority complex. The first wrong assumption being that women wear make up an high shoes to lie. When women wear it because we like it, andost really don't care what men think of how we dress or if we wear makeup or not. Women do not exist to appeal to you. If you think make up and high heels are a lie, ok. Then go date someone who doesn't wear any make up. But don't think calling half the people on the planet liars is going to go over well. Both men and women can be liars. You just think male lies are justified, while female ones are not.
No. You could argue that we discriminate against women we don't find attractive, but ugliness shines right through even the thickest make-up, just as beauty does. However the crux of the issue is that women who cake on make-up and wear push-up bras (etc.) are really just signalling to men how poor quality their personality is. And a poor personality is something that both men and women can agree is unattractive.
Ok here's the thing, WOMEN AND MEN SHOULD BE ABLE TO WEAR AS MUCH OR AS LITTLE MAKEUP AS THEY WANT WITHOUT BEING CRITICIZED. IT'S THEIR FACE, IT'S THEIR BODY, WHICH MAKES IT THEIR CHOICE TO GET IMPLANTS OR COAT THEIR FACES IN LAYERS OF MAKEUP OR DO WHATEVER THE HELL THEY WANT AS LONG AS THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE. Telling someone what or what not to do with their own face and body is wrong. Wearing makeup and dying your hair isn't a "lie" it's a form of self expression, and if you don't like your body, you should have the right to get breast implants or liposuction, or a sex change BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO WITH YOUR BODY. (Just because you don't like my shitty eyeliner doesn't mean I'm going to stop smudging on my face everyday, I didn't put it on for you) *Drops mic and walks out*
You just said more about who you are then I think you want the world to see of you.
If you can't treat others with respect, you don't deserve it. You sir, are a mysogunistic ass.
I've met far more men that were great people then were jerks. I feel it's unfair to place the blame on those that are good, simply because they are also male.
If we want change, if we want the world to be safer and better for all women, we need men to help. We can not change the world by fighting against men, we need men and women to support each other to enact the change we all need for a better society.