In health class my junior year of high school, we were talking about rape and one of the guys in my class said "If the girl is wearing a really short slutty dress she deserves to be raped; that's what she gets for being a whore." And all of the boys in the class (and even some of the girls) started clapping and agreeing with him. I was so disgusted that I started shaking and crying in the middle of class.
What is wrong with society!? Defending rape!? This has just....
I thought I could love humans, but damn......
This just...... hurts my core. This is worse than the 14 y-o gave birth, killed it, then threw it away.
I've been called a prude for wearing my skirt too long, called a slut and told I deserved to be raped for wearing it a tiny bit shorter.
I was 10 at the time both of these things happened.
We can't really win, because there's no in between anymore.
I mean I can understand thinking a girl is a slut if all she wears is revealing clothing all the time, but to think that even girls who may actually even be sluts deserve to have their basic rights of choosing who they wish to have sex with and whether or not they choose to have it taken away from them is a horrifying prospect to me.
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At 10, I would never wear anything above about half a palm above the top of my kneecap, be that shorts, a dress or a skirt. I wouldn't have called that slutty, personally. And no, it wasn't a prevailing opinion, I was just called a slut by a couple of guys in my class (they were 13 at the time, so that's why they probably did it.)
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And as for 'expecting the expected', you're going to have to expect being whistled at, maybe even harassed a little (not necessarily right, but most of the time it IS an expectation, which is sad) but nobody should ever have to 'expect' to be raped just for wearing the clothes they wear. Saying someone wearing short shorts and a tank top is asking to be raped is like saying someone wearing jeans and a jumper is asking to be a virgin for their entire lives, in my opinion.
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I see no problem with wearing short shorts. You never ASKED to be raped. You just get raped.
*gulps* I hate throwing the word around like it's nothing, but it has be said....
Anyways, it's never right to rape someone and saying some in saying that they should be raped for what they're wearing is a sick person who needs some form of punishment.
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Like, if they asked to be raped, THEN IT WOULDN'T BE RAPE, so if they are simply wearing shorts, then no, they do not ask to be raped. No one asks to be raped because then it wouldn't be rape because the person would give their consent. No matter clothes, do not rape, don't rape no matter what
Even if you said yes at the beginning you could still change your mind. If you say no and tell them to stop halfway through but they keep going anyway, that's rape. You told them yes at the beginning but told them to stop and they still forced themselves on you- that's still rape. I don't know why it would ever be called "consensual rape" seeing as those two words contradict one another...
The part you've forgotten is that rape was specifically requested, not just sex in general. You asked for rape, and received it. It's the only way to fulfill the request.
@dailydoseofmusic- look up the rape culture of India. There's your uber fucked up answer
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We watched a video about that in school. It was so fucked up. And then they asked some grown up men from over there about it and one of them said 'a girl is a diamond. If you se one on the street you pick it up'.
Then one guy in my class said it's the girl's fault and I swear the next world war broke out (our class is not afraid to speak our thought).
It's all just so fucked up people would do that shit and i'm so fucking done.
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And they even burn some of the girls because it's better being dead than walking around with the shame of having been raped
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I wonder if any of the stuff we do would be considered barbaric....(genuine question, not some kind of sarcasm)
I remember reading something, I believe it was a teacher talking to a class but he went on about how " there's a female laying on her porch in her backyard, topless. There is a tall fence but one of the neighbors sees. That night he climbs through her window and raped her. Was she provoking him to do it and only had herself to blame ? "
The class all agreed that it was her fault.
Then he asked would their mind change of they found out the female was a 5 year old.
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Why....why would that be her fault, no matter the age? It's her backyard. Her area. If there was a tall fence, then she probably thought nobody could see. That would be intruding and possibly breaking and entering ON TOP of rape. Oh my god.
Actually, in a lot of places it's perfectly legal to walk around topless. It's just not socially acceptable because rape culture is accepted as 'something that's just going to happen'.
We once read a book in class where the protagonist, a teacher, raped a student of his. And everyone in my class said it wasn't rape and it was her fault and she wanted it. They argued this with: "Because she didn't say "no." she wanted it." And it's described that she tries to cover herself, and that she's uncomfortable heck the protagonist even says that she probably doesn't want it but he's gonna do it anyways. And they were all like: "meh, she could have said no.." It made me so mad... still does.
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RAPE means that it wasn't with consent so if someone speakes about it with that term they can't say it wasn't rape and one person didn't want to.
Those people who even thinks abou it are sick
We read the book in school aswell, heoes right? It's disgusting that anyone would ever see it that way, I go to an all girls school so everyone was disgusted because it's something we're all afraid of.
the book that I was talking about is Disgrace, by Coetzee. "Funnily" enough we were more girls in this class.. I was really shocked that they would say so.
I was sexually abused and I wouldn't want the person that did it to be killed because of it. That's not going to make me feel any better. So personally I think it's extreme as well.
I'm sorry for the past, but we must teach the scum of the earth a lesson, and that may result in your own personal revenge, or maybe you pity such lowly creatures, but I for one would like to see them wiped out.
I just don't like this "wipe them out" etc. stuff. And I don't think we have the right to decide over the life of others. I think if we do so then we are on the same level as "such lowly creatures." And I think this brings only more rage and anger into the world. But I agree that there should be consequences.
I applaud your ability to escape the human limitations to anger and bloodlust, but I am not such a person, and if I need to be the one to pull the trigger, so be it.
Except when they rape and murder the innocent, they are no longer human. They become an animal, lower than that of a snake. It's be no different than killing a pest. They are vermin.
That sounds pretty sick. I agree that crimes like that are unforgivable but the death penalty seems inhumane, more so when you counter in false accusations and especially if you describe the people you are taking a life from as "vermin" and "no longer a human." These people have done horrible things but they also have a family and a childhood. You can't strip away humanity when discussing someone's life
Humans are animals. By that I mean we are actual animals, that belong to the Mammalia Kingdom, although I do get what you are saying. Instead of killing them, I say force them to live in constant embarrassment, belittle them, never let them even come in contact with another person. Have them live in total isolation. Most humans need some form of contact(of many ways)so going totally without it could-and, in most cases, will-cause somebody to go insane. Don't let them have a phone, don't let them have paper, don't let them have anything. Just let them rot.
No, don't spend money on them. Just send them to an extremely isolated area. And causing insanity almost as worse as being raped, and it's what they deserve. And yes, these aren't the best of comments, but at least we are giving such a horrible thing the recognition it needs. Maybe not the embarrassment, as that's not very practical when they're isolated, but I believe that rapists deserve this.
I cannot comprehend the mind set nessessary to rape someone. Even my darkest thoughts and dreams don't come close. I do not want to live in a society that justifies the people who are so effed up as to defend people that are that depraved.
Fiiiiiiine...
>want pussy/dick
>take pussy/dick
Also, what do you mean WTF? Is it not easy to comprehend?
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It's easy to comprehend the actions, but not so much the reasoning.
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It's the same thing as killing, we know how to kill and murder but we don't because we have morals.
Yes we can just:
>headshot
>hide body
but we don't want to do that because it would ruin our lives. No big top corporation would hire a former murder, even if they are a FORMER murder. Heh, I'd imagine the American psycho walking into Apple, trying to get a job and then they rejected him....
Rapists are sick. People who justify rape are idiots because "it's the girl's fault". Rape is without consent; forced. In no way will a girl (or guy, that happens too) consent to rape. We should be able to dress how we want (not saying at all to dress revealingly, just how we want to!) without having to constantly worry if we're gonna get picked up off the street. It's a daily worry that none of us should have to go through. Rape is sick-minded and disgusting, and this shouldn't be a fear every time we go outside.
killing someone will not make you feel better torture now that would make anyone feel better but worse at the same time what did I just blow your mind :o what.
Rapist are scum whatever the situation! ! But as women (some) need to be smarter and avoid certain situations. Not justifying rape but just saying. It could happen unfortunately to anyone but sometimes maybe u shouldn't be doing certain things (and I mean getting into risky behaviors/ situations)
What is a risky situation? Women should be safe everywhere, we shouldn't be the ones who need to change. Instead of telling women to change, tell men not to rape.
And I agree! You are right they shouldn't. Unfortunately we live in a messed up world. It's like People shouldn't steal. But u try to be safe no to go to certain areas alone at night, not leaving a purse in a car. Unfortunately we have the risk of something happening anyday. I think the more we can avoid certain things the better. Not saying it's our fault or our responsibility But we know we don't live in a world where u can get drinks in a bar (just an example) and then take a walk in a dark alley on your way home. The sick people are out there. Like the story above it could happen to a girl in her home and that's sickening. But also happens in avoidable situations also wrong but just saying I have seen friends take very poor decisions and they have been lucky nothing happened other people can't say the same. Just saying be safe!
Where I'm from no where is safe, two weeks ago a woman was stabbed in a park in broad daylight, last week a mother and her daughter were stabbed in their home by their father and another woman was at work and was raped and burned alive by the janitor. This is no longer about "be safe" there is no safe when the mind set is still stuck on the fact that somehow women can prevent theses attacks, we need to have a shift in society and unfortunately it's going to get worse before it gets better.
I'm sorry hopefully God/creator (idk what u believe) protects u. I was talking about specific cases. I'm a woman I respect women and I'm not blaming us. I was talking about a percentage of cases. I have had friends telling me they slept in a bench in the street cuz they were so drunk for example. ...thankfully they were safe but that would not be the case in many cities.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands.
I thought I could love humans, but damn......
This just...... hurts my core. This is worse than the 14 y-o gave birth, killed it, then threw it away.
I was 10 at the time both of these things happened.
We can't really win, because there's no in between anymore.
*hides behind chair*
*gulps* I hate throwing the word around like it's nothing, but it has be said....
Anyways, it's never right to rape someone and saying some in saying that they should be raped for what they're wearing is a sick person who needs some form of punishment.
Then one guy in my class said it's the girl's fault and I swear the next world war broke out (our class is not afraid to speak our thought).
It's all just so fucked up people would do that shit and i'm so fucking done.
The class all agreed that it was her fault.
Then he asked would their mind change of they found out the female was a 5 year old.
Those people who even thinks abou it are sick
edit: and I strongly agree with you illflyifiwantto
>take pussy
It's not hard to comprehend.
Also, women aren't the only ones who get raped- men can be raped as well.
>want pussy/dick
>take pussy/dick
Also, what do you mean WTF? Is it not easy to comprehend?
Yes we can just:
>headshot
>hide body
but we don't want to do that because it would ruin our lives. No big top corporation would hire a former murder, even if they are a FORMER murder. Heh, I'd imagine the American psycho walking into Apple, trying to get a job and then they rejected him....
Rapists, and short slutty cloths
No pun intended
*hides behind couch*