There is a crap load of police brutality that does happen. But i have seen a lot of people try to be smart with an officer and not comply when hes being peaceful.
Good. The law is to be respected. If you ask me we are too easy on people. More death penalty in my opinion. All murderers and rapists should be executed.
Plus it costs more money to pursue the death penalty than to house the prisoner, plus "An Eye for an Eye" doesn't justify murdering someone, for having murdered someone else.
You're partially correct, Eye for an Eye is not the way to do things. However, the government isn't murdering anyone with the death penalty. That is considered a sentence of execution. An execution is punishment for breaking certain laws placed on a society. Charging an innocent is always a concern but if you look at those who are sentence to death there is only a .02% falsely convicted rate. Now this figure only takes into account those cases which actually are re-investigated. On the other hand it costs the government (US) almost $80K per year per prisoner. The cost does not significantly differentiate between death row inmates and regular inmates. Death row inmates that sit in prison for 10-20 years before their execution are why people think it costs so much to have the death penalty. Realistically a bullet to the brain is just as effective as lethal injection but one costs $2 and the other between $15k and $25k. Of course one is considered humane and the other not.
.02% is a small number, but I still think that is too much of a risk. One innocent death is too much, according to me.
And the execution part: many countries think that every human has the right to live, no matter what, and I kinda agree to that. Of course this is just my personal opinion.
There is nothing wrong with having that opinion. And I agree that even 0.02% is still to large but it comes down to a gain/loss scenario. There is a finite limit to any resource and part of the government's job is to determine the best allocation of those resources for the whole not for the individual. It's the people of that country's job to look after the individual. This is why we have the judicial system. While I agree that the needs of the many should never supersede the needs of the few, I also know that that ideal is not practical nor realistic. Once a population grows to a certain extant the ruling body of that population must make decisions that will help the most and hurt the least, but there will always be someone who falls into the hurt category whether we like or not.
Or the evidence were pointing at the wrong person, who happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time, so no, not ways guilty of something. And if they were, the question is was their crime worth a death sentence?
That's not always true. There have been many cases where the innocent person was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. You have to remember that even though evidence and facts are what is used in most countries to establish guilt, people still interpret those things based on their perspective. The phrase "perception is reality" is based on just that phenomenon. This is why you always see them stop and take a step back on those cop shows or csi like shows. Humans as a race are limited or hindered in this manner, however this is not always a bad thing. Many verdicts and sentences have been issued in which the real perpetrator was punished which would not have been without our ability to perceive the truth even when the evidence found is ambiguous.
Alright then, how would you guys handle them? The current procedure isn't good enough and I guess my idea was fucking shitty, how would you handle it? Sing songs around the campfire?
It's not that your idea was bad just a little uninformed maybe. Personally I'm for the death penalty but I also realize the failures of that method. It used to be that the death penalty was two fold. First the execution removed an unwanted blight from society and second acted as a deterrent to future law breakers. The death penalty as used to today only does the first and even that takes more time than it should. I think we should stop being so humane and just revert back to firing squads. The person is going to die, what does it really matter if they feel pain for the last few seconds if that. Also, all executions should be publicly broadcast on every channel in the country during the act itself. A deterrent is only a deterrent if it's known on a personal level. Now before some says "What about the children watching? They'll be scarred for life." That's the point. It's not that I want a bunch of traumatized kids but with the proper explanations and schooling the kids will adjust.
The point is really that it becomes something everyone has to acknowledge. That the consequences of your or anybody's actions have a definitive and fear inducing result. Verses what takes place today behind locked doors with only a few select people able to witness the execution. That monster under your bed only scared you until you realized it was your imagination at work. The death penalty has become like that monster hidden and rationalized away so much it no longer achieves the effect it was originally intended for. The other punishment I would propose is banishment. "This is your third strike? Well no sense in further burdening the people of this country with paying for your crimes you are no longer a citizen of this country and all the rights that implied." There are plenty of uninhabited places on this planet that won't kill you right off where we could drop banished criminals.
Yes and it worked to some extent. Of course no country wants to allow known criminals into their own backyard so it would have to be uninhabited. But since they would no longer be citizens there is no rule saying that have to stay there or not have communication with the world they just can't return physically to the country they were banished from.
Yes guest, thats right. You get downvoted in this nice place for even implicating the mere existence of something like racial profiling and specific police reactions depening on the color of the skin. Police is up to your black ass? Must have done something wrong. Easy as that.
But then again - things be different if you're white. Bunches of caucasian savage the streets in a fucking drunken rage? Just lettting off some steam, healthy thing to do. 3 black men in a car with a broken taillight? Better get paramilitary equipment to bust their thug asses like Hitler did with Poland.
Right bc when he pointed a realistic looking firearm at the police, they should've completely ignored their training and waited to see if he shot them? Maybe they should have asked if it was a real? Risked their lives instead of surviving one more day to save anothers race? Also perhaps the fact that the so called kid was proven to be 18 pretending to be a child didn't matter either? He wasn't responsible for making death threats to the police? And race has nothing to do with it... You point something like looks like a real firearm at law enforcement you are going to be dusted no matter your color of skin or cultural or religion. That's a little thing called life. One doesn' t threaten another's life if that one don't want theirs removed.
I think this is a fair statement. There are horrible cops who abuse their power, don't get me wrong, but there are a lot of people who cry wolf.
I watched a documentary on a rap group from Edmonton who were native, and Edmonton has a large native population. They feel the same like black people do in southern states.
This group was loitering behind a strip plaza near a school and smoking when cops came around. They started saying they were being racially profiled etc. They weren't being racially profiled, they were dressed like thugs hanging in an alley - that's sketchy fucking behaviour. They were being profiled on their actions but pull the racism card and say the cops were being cowboys.
At the end of the film it said 2 of the 5 guys were arrested for selling drugs to minors. The same two who went off on racial discrimination.
Sometimes it really is the people to blame and not the cops
"They weren't being racially profiled, they were dressed like thugs hanging in an alley - that's sketchy fucking behaviour." - at first I thought this was somehow amusing, I mean, you just not getting the irony of your statement. But then I realized, it really is totally sad and dissapointing. Do you really., really, really believe the cops would have treated them similar, if they had been white? Did anyone see them "selling drugs to minors"? Probably not.
Actually yes, they were caught on video. And yes I truly believe they would have been treated the same were they white. Smoking in an alley by a high school when you have a known drug record is asking for trouble, whether you're white, black, Asian, Hispanic or whatever.
And the execution part: many countries think that every human has the right to live, no matter what, and I kinda agree to that. Of course this is just my personal opinion.
But then again - things be different if you're white. Bunches of caucasian savage the streets in a fucking drunken rage? Just lettting off some steam, healthy thing to do. 3 black men in a car with a broken taillight? Better get paramilitary equipment to bust their thug asses like Hitler did with Poland.
I watched a documentary on a rap group from Edmonton who were native, and Edmonton has a large native population. They feel the same like black people do in southern states.
This group was loitering behind a strip plaza near a school and smoking when cops came around. They started saying they were being racially profiled etc. They weren't being racially profiled, they were dressed like thugs hanging in an alley - that's sketchy fucking behaviour. They were being profiled on their actions but pull the racism card and say the cops were being cowboys.
At the end of the film it said 2 of the 5 guys were arrested for selling drugs to minors. The same two who went off on racial discrimination.
Sometimes it really is the people to blame and not the cops