Aaaaaaaaaaand this is why people can't have a basic conversations and disagree about anything. Then, everyone is forced to be extreme on both sides of any argument. When people are exaggerated dick clowns, and lie to prove a point, it doesn't make me disagree more; I disagree with you the same, but now I also think you're an idiot and dislike you on being a shady turd.
Yeah, some people like that are jerk. I assume they're a vegatarIan or vegan. I understand vegatairians, but I think vegans need to revaluate their diet.
Even if the pigs are only kept in the gestation crates when they are pregnant or nursing, for a female breeding pig whose purpose is to reproduce, that's a majority of their life. Although the second farmer might not use them as intensively, the first farmer does have a point. They are in reality quite common, and are banned in several states and countries.
I've been having an ongoing argument with my vegetarian friend. She believes that male chicks are sexed then thrown *literately* in the garbage and then crushed or put through a grinder. My dad's side of the family are farmers. I've asked farmers at various farmers markets. Nobody has heard of this and some laughed at the notion. And they told me several reasons why. My friend doesn't believe them. She thinks male chicks don't live past a week old in the US b/c of our farming practices.
PS. Having helped with the farm chickens, I never believed her and she thinks I'm heartless.
Can you blame the person for not really knowing? Do you know where your food comes from and how it's raised etc?. None of us do. Not really. And those farmer guys, their just trying to defend themselves. It just puts everyone in a party. Like the fucking government. Ugh. I'm just gonna stop here.
Well if she doesn't really know she shouldn't be acting like she's right.
And I'd rather take the word of a farmer than some who thinks they know everything because they watched Earthlings ( which has been proven false over and over again )
Wtf is earthlings. Sounds like a sci-fi movie. And I don't know why your defending people who are legally not allowed to tell you what's going on with the food that is going into your body because they will literally lose everything and possibly go to jail. Lets take the beef industry for example. We are literally not allowed to say anything negative about it or you will get sued. Oprah knows. Lucky for her she's a billionaire and has the money to match the beef industries lawyers. But at the same time I understand the farmers are small people in a maze of fucked up. Maybe this part isn't true.. but who the fuck really knows?! Cause they can't really tell you.
Earthlings is a movie about the " dark side " of the meat industry and shows things such as sheep being killed to be sheared and cows being branded in the face. It's full of misinformation. ( cause any blood on the wool renders it unsellable, and shearing is actually good for them. And branding a cow in the face makes it so they can't eat so they'd wither and die ) and there's a bunch of other lies to make you become a vegetarian in it.
And where the fuck have you heard that they cannot tell you what goes into your food ? I have never ever heard that.
Well. If they tell you and not show you... I wouldn't believe it either. If there is video evidence...? I don't know. More research is needed.
And when it comes to your question. . This can be deduced from the fact that the fast food industry are not legally obligated to let you know what your calorie intake is per meal that has been ordered. They have legally fought against this and won. Yet we do have a law that requires all other mass produced foods, usually prepared, to provide a nutrition label. And no one would argue that anything from from Mc Donalds has not been fully prepared before it really got heated up.
Well maybe that doesn't answer your question. Have you or anyone else that really didn't matter, I mean the ones who can argue and debate like me or you (I really didn't mean offense to you when I said "didn't matter" but against these industries we are only bigger together), get to see the inner workings of what's really going on? Why are we not allowed..
Our constitutional rights? Why are we not allowed to know what's really going on? Why do we have to fight for this? Why does the fda have to file a lawsuit to regain it's right to look into the factories and have a say what is legal to put into our foods and not?
Why do we have to fight to see what they are actually feeding us? Please. If you can provide adequate information, allow all of us to know what really happens. Not just words on a website. Allow tourism into those factories that provide us our food. And we'll there really is only a handful... like 5 meat industries etc. Then please do. Please. I would prefer to trust.
He worked on a farm. There is a huge difference between a farm and a cafo (Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations). He probably didn't work on an industrial farm/cafo because those are much much worse.
PS. Having helped with the farm chickens, I never believed her and she thinks I'm heartless.
And I'd rather take the word of a farmer than some who thinks they know everything because they watched Earthlings ( which has been proven false over and over again )
And where the fuck have you heard that they cannot tell you what goes into your food ? I have never ever heard that.
And when it comes to your question. . This can be deduced from the fact that the fast food industry are not legally obligated to let you know what your calorie intake is per meal that has been ordered. They have legally fought against this and won. Yet we do have a law that requires all other mass produced foods, usually prepared, to provide a nutrition label. And no one would argue that anything from from Mc Donalds has not been fully prepared before it really got heated up.
Well maybe that doesn't answer your question. Have you or anyone else that really didn't matter, I mean the ones who can argue and debate like me or you (I really didn't mean offense to you when I said "didn't matter" but against these industries we are only bigger together), get to see the inner workings of what's really going on? Why are we not allowed..