Yep, women would still be treated like shit. The world would indeed be a better place. What a sick comeback. Applause for that intelligent and educated comment. Now go tell that same comment to your mother.
look i don't really want to argue, especially not on this post, but I just want to say this. Not being allowed to do the same things as men can be considered as being treated like shit. Women weren't allowed jobs, or were fired the moment they got married and were forced into a housekeeping role because they werent allowed to do the same sort of things as men. And yes, that is being treated as shit, being forbidden from doing something just because of your gender. Also the witchhunt persecutions of the 16th and 17th century. whilst not directly aimed at women, the majority in many countries were women, because their role in society made them susceptible to accusations and because there had always been a prejudice in early Christianity because of the story of Adam and Eve. Women were believed to be the weaker sex
if you need proof just look at the case of the Pappenheimers. Its a witchcraft case that used horrendous torture but take more notice to the gender-specific torture they used on the mother, specifically to mock her sexuality and motherhood. And unless you really do live in a cave, then you must have some knowledge at what happens to women in Middle Eastern countries, and how women who are raped are sometimes punished themselves because they did not have a male with them, and are therefore seen to blame
"Not being allowed to do the same things as men can be considered as being treated like shit."
No it can't. We don't let dogs do the same as people, because they are inferior to us and incapable of the things we do. Does that mean we treat dogs like shit?
"not directly aimed at women"
So it's not actually relevant to how people treated women.
"you must have some knowledge at what happens to women in Middle Eastern countries,"
This is really the only decent argument in those two posts, buts that's only some women, not women in general. And Middle-Eastern women still aren't treated like shit, because they're obviously still treated better than dogs. There will always be a monitory of women in the world that are treated poorly, just as there will always be some men who are treat poorly (not necessarily in equal numbers).
Up until about 1970, if a man was abusive to his wife; literally beat her up to the point of killing her, all the cops would do tell him to 'walk around the block to cool' off. That is just one example how women were treated like shit. How about little girls being married off to MEN? You are living in a cave....
Wife-beating has been frowned upon since the early 1900s, and it's never been legal to actually kill your wife.
And being married off at a young age is still being treated better than dogs, which aren't treated like shit.
Well, "frowning upon" something as you so eloquently say won't change it. And great, not legal to kill your wife, so the worst they could expect a few hundred years ago was being stoned to within an inch of their deaths. Please educate yourself, you're making yourself appear crude and unintelligent.
"Well, "frowning upon" something as you so eloquently say won't change it."
Sure it does. If it's frowned upon it means it's socially unacceptable, meaning people in general don't do it, meaning only a minority of women will be subject to it, meaning that's not how women are treated as a whole.
"And great, not legal to kill your wife, so the worst they could expect a few hundred years ago was being stoned to within an inch of their deaths."
Way to ignore the part where I said that stoning was never something that only women were subjected to, so it has nothing to do with how women specifically were treated. It's always been illegal to kill a person regardless of gender, and both men and women were stoned.
Believe it or not, people were/are killed because of gender. In fact there are several posts on tumblr asking people in women's studies at colleges to stay safe as there are people on the internet trying to encourage initiating shootings there because they want to "shoot every dirty feminist" they see. It doesn't matter what's legal or not, people will usually try to act on whatever twisted ideas they come up with. If you take a moment to look up the history of Massachusetts you'll also find that women were tortured and killed after being accused of witchcraft. Are you trying to argue that there never has our will be a need for feminism?
No one's arguing that throughout history some women have been treated like shit for being women, but society as a whole has never treated them that way. Women have been seen as important since the beginning of history.
"If you take a moment to look up the history of Massachusetts you'll also find that women were tortured and killed after being accused of witchcraft."
Again, women killed and tortured during the witch hunts were killed and tortured because they were thought to be witches, not because they were women.
"Are you trying to argue that there never has our(sic) will be a need for feminism?"
No. I'm not arguing anything about feminism.
Women can be seen as important now but there is still a lot of undercover sexism, along with more obvious forms of it. We are definitely advancing as a society, but that also proves that what we came from isn't so great.
Everything you said is true, but that doesn't refute the fact that women have always been seen as being important by society. Being treated as less than men is not the same as being treated like shit.
"Though I'd prefer to be treated as equal."
Obviously. It's not like I'm against gender equality.
"Anyhow, respect to the victems of 9/11."
Hehe, slightly ironic how you misspelled "victim".
- femalepotato
Hint: Not being allowed to do the same things as men is not the same as being treated like shit.
No it can't. We don't let dogs do the same as people, because they are inferior to us and incapable of the things we do. Does that mean we treat dogs like shit?
"not directly aimed at women"
So it's not actually relevant to how people treated women.
"you must have some knowledge at what happens to women in Middle Eastern countries,"
This is really the only decent argument in those two posts, buts that's only some women, not women in general. And Middle-Eastern women still aren't treated like shit, because they're obviously still treated better than dogs. There will always be a monitory of women in the world that are treated poorly, just as there will always be some men who are treat poorly (not necessarily in equal numbers).
And being married off at a young age is still being treated better than dogs, which aren't treated like shit.
Sure it does. If it's frowned upon it means it's socially unacceptable, meaning people in general don't do it, meaning only a minority of women will be subject to it, meaning that's not how women are treated as a whole.
"And great, not legal to kill your wife, so the worst they could expect a few hundred years ago was being stoned to within an inch of their deaths."
Way to ignore the part where I said that stoning was never something that only women were subjected to, so it has nothing to do with how women specifically were treated. It's always been illegal to kill a person regardless of gender, and both men and women were stoned.
"If you take a moment to look up the history of Massachusetts you'll also find that women were tortured and killed after being accused of witchcraft."
Again, women killed and tortured during the witch hunts were killed and tortured because they were thought to be witches, not because they were women.
"Are you trying to argue that there never has our(sic) will be a need for feminism?"
No. I'm not arguing anything about feminism.
Obviously. It's not like I'm against gender equality.
"Anyhow, respect to the victems of 9/11."
Hehe, slightly ironic how you misspelled "victim".