Jobs was a businessman, not an inventor

True. But you can succeed and still be an asshole.

Well Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison had similar but different ideas, Nikola Tesla decided that he was going to use AC current and Thomas Edison decided he would use DC currents. What Thomas Edison did is publicly demonized Tesla's idea. So while most people think that Edison stole Tesla's ideas it was actually Edison being an a******.

Nikola Tesla was also was very shy and very awkward in the eyes of others, while Thomas Edison was a businessman that everybody liked.

Edison and his fucking exploitation of another man's social incapabilities.

Steve Wozniak, co-founder of Apple, creator of the first Apple computers.

Those who can't do, teach. Same with Tesla and Edison. I think Edison was an egotistic megalomaniac. But he marketed. It's why we have Popes and Kings. It's why people worship Jobs and Gates. They literally saw code and paid for it and built empires.

Well- in fairness marketing wasn’t his only trick. He gamed patent law and used many brutal and questionably legal (let alone unethical) methods and tools to force out, discredit, intimidate, or otherwise destroy competition. I’d argue those methods likely did more for him early on than marketing did. Pipes and Kings also historically tended to use force or threat of force to gain and keep power. One can’t argue that killing, torturing, or harming anyone who opposes you (if you have the power or ability to do so) doesn’t produce results. That doesn’t mean those results should be held up as examples that those methods are ones we should tolerate.

Whoa. Step back. Take a breath. Elon Musk is an innovative businessman. Tesla was an inventor. An artist if you must. Elon Musk creates options for the future. Steve Jobs created options for a free parking space and people to fawn over every new edition of a phone.

Yes, but as guest says, he may be innovative, imaginative, he may have the “vision” to see a path and the skills to make that vision come to market. He may have connections, he may be creative with business- but he isn’t an inventor. He didn’t invent his products he’s not the first person to start a radical business model, succeed, and sell. An inventor creates the fork, an innovator figures out a fork can style hair and a business person finds a way to sell people branded hair forks. He may be the latter two, but as an inventor he’s lacking credentials regardless of his business acumen.

I think you misspelled Dinglehopper.

I’m glad someone noticed.

Yeah , but he did make Sam Clemens shiat himself using a vibrating platform. So he has that going for him.