I tell you that you can have my bike. Then I turn around and call you a thief, and to make us “even,” I steal your gaming PC. That’s basically what this says. You agreed to give someone your time, then called them thieves for taking it, and stole from them. Yes yes. I’ve heard the arguments. Many are true. Many companies abuse internships. Avoid hiring and use interns they over stress and so on. When a person is in a job that treats them like crap, but they can’t quit because they are living paycheck to paycheck- that really sucks. But... you aren’t being paid. So if you don’t like it... leave. What are they going to do? Stop paying you? This is passive aggressive codepend nonsense. You’re unhappy so instead of just standing up and either telling them, or leaving, you just keep being unhappy but steal as payback? That’s like those couples that hate each other but just stay together so that they can keep hurting each other. Move on, learn to speak up for yourself and to have integrity.
maybe there’s not a lot of demand for workers in his area but he needs work experience and whatnot, with unpaid internships the only positions open
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· 5 years ago
1. It's a joke
2. Internships with no monetary compensation are required by law to provide relevant job experience. If you watch an accountant do their job and get them coffee twice a day, you are not getting relevant job experience.
3. Connected to point 2, the agreement made in an unpaid internship is that I provide you with a service and you provide me with education. If you are not providing me with an education as you contracted to do, then our contract is void.
4. Yes, stealing is wrong. I agree with that.
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Student teaching is actually a great example of how unpaid internships are supposed to work. A non-grad gets to work with real students and an always available mentor. The teacher is freed up to get things done they never would without the help, and the student teacher gets real-world experience with a professional to guide them.
@jbruce1252- maybe. But what does that have to do with anything? If there is not much demand for workers, and they need the internship-
1. Why would younrosk something you need so you can steal something in spite?
2. If they need the internship, and it makes sense that they “must” stay- then they are benefiting from it all the same. Does it make a difference if we say it is a paying job, but there aren’t many open positions where they are, and so they “need” the job? Not really. If you need it you need it. It may not be a job you want or even a good job- but then if you need it so much, why would you jeaparodize it? You have to decide for yourself if it’s worth putting up with it or not.
@unklethan-
1. Yes. Yes it is.
2. Yes. Yes they are. People are also required not to steal. It is very likely of your company caught you stealing they would exercise their legal rights to mitigate that, and likely get rid of you for breaking the law. If your employer breaks the law, you should probably exercise your legal rights, or at the very least get rid of them by leaving.
3. That was the agreement. And if I agree to mow your lawn, and you agree to teach me to play guitar if I do, and one of us breaks the deal, contract law invalidates the whole contract. It does not allow you to steal my lawn mower to make things even.
4. We do agree there it seems. And yes, student teaching is usually a good internship. As it pertains to points 2-3, I did say in my initial post that wether or not an internship held up its end of the bargain wasn’t relevant, and I am aware that many “internships” are glorified free temp services. The fact that they are or are not bad is immaterial.
What an interesting thought. When you say that I talk too much- do you mean as is specific to this thread, or just as is the gerneral case in your overall observations? I’m rather interested to hear what you have to say. One might think that the opinions of others, or the opinions of some random guest or a regular user too cowardly to voice their opinion openly and hiding behind a guest log in, aren’t worth ones time. While I generally agree that the perceptions of others shouldn’t effect how we feel about ourselves, I do however strive to reach an understanding with other people, and for my own curiosity get some idea about the way others perceive me, and as such I am quite interested in hearing you extrapolate on your opinions. Is it the frequency at which I post, the volume? Some combination? The particular composition and word count, overall verbosity? And in what context? This could be quite an interesting conversation and perhaps even enlightening to me. I eagerly await a reply.
2. Internships with no monetary compensation are required by law to provide relevant job experience. If you watch an accountant do their job and get them coffee twice a day, you are not getting relevant job experience.
3. Connected to point 2, the agreement made in an unpaid internship is that I provide you with a service and you provide me with education. If you are not providing me with an education as you contracted to do, then our contract is void.
4. Yes, stealing is wrong. I agree with that.
.
Student teaching is actually a great example of how unpaid internships are supposed to work. A non-grad gets to work with real students and an always available mentor. The teacher is freed up to get things done they never would without the help, and the student teacher gets real-world experience with a professional to guide them.
1. Why would younrosk something you need so you can steal something in spite?
2. If they need the internship, and it makes sense that they “must” stay- then they are benefiting from it all the same. Does it make a difference if we say it is a paying job, but there aren’t many open positions where they are, and so they “need” the job? Not really. If you need it you need it. It may not be a job you want or even a good job- but then if you need it so much, why would you jeaparodize it? You have to decide for yourself if it’s worth putting up with it or not.
1. Yes. Yes it is.
2. Yes. Yes they are. People are also required not to steal. It is very likely of your company caught you stealing they would exercise their legal rights to mitigate that, and likely get rid of you for breaking the law. If your employer breaks the law, you should probably exercise your legal rights, or at the very least get rid of them by leaving.
3. That was the agreement. And if I agree to mow your lawn, and you agree to teach me to play guitar if I do, and one of us breaks the deal, contract law invalidates the whole contract. It does not allow you to steal my lawn mower to make things even.
4. We do agree there it seems. And yes, student teaching is usually a good internship. As it pertains to points 2-3, I did say in my initial post that wether or not an internship held up its end of the bargain wasn’t relevant, and I am aware that many “internships” are glorified free temp services. The fact that they are or are not bad is immaterial.