Funny how liberals can be against the draft while at the same time mocking someone for not wanting to go to war.
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I'm in the army and honestly what I personally would do (and know a few people that have done it) basically go as the gender you were born until you retire because if you serve you can retire quite young and can have enough income to afford the expensive charges (my friends have told me and Jesus it can be a chunk of money without surgeries even) and I get some people saying it might not be wise (I mean there's no reason to be a giant d*ickbag about it *cough cough*) often people who are trans might have mental illness because of discrimination, bullying, being in the wrong body, etc and to join you basically have to be 100% perfect with no issues (if they're small things you can get a waiver but even that can't get you in because they need to make sure they have someone that will be reliable and the army is like a business in that regard. They don't care who or what you are if you could possibly be a liability they don't care and won't listen)
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· 5 years ago
This is anyone not fit for military like anyone with a mental issue, health problem, not strong enough, didn't pass training. Anyone the army doesn't want. It can be tough to get in and tough to stay. Basically the army is like a business or a corporation they only want those they think aren't a liability and sadly they view anyone that isn't of use a liability. While famousone was a bit harsh and angry about he had like 1 good point of they spend millions of dollars and don't want to waste it (on what they see as a waste anyway) they are very tough. Very tough. They teach how to fight and use a gun and if they see you have a therapist they won't want you at all and won't even let you go through processing because they won't look super deep into why and if you're good they'll just go "nah not good enough" and keep moving because to the army you're all ranks they don't care about your name or face just if you can do a job so it can be tough to join
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· 5 years ago
If you can't join military don't worry! There's tons of civilian jobs similar to military ones, wanna train people cause u like working out? Gyms hire all the time! I like languages so I translate foreign signals, you can always learn a language and become a translator! It'll be tough in some areas and hard in others but if you can't join whether it be health (physical or mental), physical skill, time, you don't wanna leave home, don't wanna have the chance of being in war. Whatever the reason is it's totally okay and there's so many other options. If you want to try military I highly encourage it but it isn't for everything and they can't take everyone so if you can't or you're rejected don't worry everything will be okay
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(and the military isn't what I would say a privilege it's a job, like any other job just with different requirements and such. Privilege means a special right given to certain people and sure only certain people can join but every country needs and has military so again its a job to defend and protect but not a privilege to go "hahaha I'm special and ur noottttttttt" you don't get blessed with serving like it's great and the best job I have but again it's a job, we get paid. It's not a privilege.
The Army's better off without people like you. It's a privilege, not a right, and some non-deployable special snowflake is just a waste of equipment, training, and space. Worse than useless, you're a detriment to the mission and your unit.
The only ones barred are the one's undergoing elective procedures. If you're constantly recovering from operations, you cannot deploy or train. What good is a soldier who can't soldier?
Special snowflake because they are unique. Non-uniform. Special. You know what kind of chaos hormone therapy does to the body? How much harder that makes my job as a medic? Nevermind the issues of accommodations.
If you can't at least pretend for the duration of your service to be of sound mind, then you're a leech at best.
Just out of curiosity, how would hormones affect your job as a medic? I figured if anything, it would change based on whether it's dominantly Estrogen or Testosterone in their body, but I know very little of the specifics of your job.
Good question. Testosterone and estrogen levels affect the entire body. Fluid needs, rate of healing, metabolism, the like.
It changes hydration needs, effectiveness of painkillers and other drugs, dietary needs, etc.
And if I don't know the biological gender of my patient, there's signs and symptoms that vary as well. A man complaining of stomach pain may have food poisoning or appendicitis. A female may have food poisoning, appendicitis, or an ectopic pregnancy.
A man complaining of pain in his left shoulder may have a musculoskeletal problem, a female may be in the early stages of a medical emergency. Stuff like that.
The army has a hard enough time training us to treat healthy, fit people without throwing in the logistical mess of a transitioning soldier. And frankly, I'd rather focus on maintaining combat effectiveness, which transitioning soldiers are already a non-factor in as they can't train or deploy.
If they deployed or trained anyways and something happened, my interventions may not be sufficient to a transitioning or transitioned soldier as a "normal" soldier.
Like if they suffer weather injuries, major burns, traumatic amputations, crush injuries, or anything else that impacts multiple systems.
Life and death professions are no place for political correctness or inclusivity.
Thanks for the answers! I never realized some of those differences before, so it's interesting to know how big of a difference it can be. It did bring up another question though, if you don't mind me asking again.
Are certain issues tied purely to sex that a difference in hormones would have little to no impact on? I know the hormones would change a lot of things, I'm just not sure of everything that isn't affected.
Yes. Things pertaining to reproductive organs, as well as certain combinations of signs and symptoms, and musculoskeletal issues. Like how stomach pain in a female may be indicative of an ectopic pregnancy, how females tend to get hip injuries from ruck marches, and how females are more susceptible to heat, cold, or altitude related injuries.
Something as unassuming as left side shoulder pain is more likely to be a medical emergency for one gender over the other.
Granted, I'm not dumping on my female comrades, these are just trends and scenarios that I am trained to address and be aware of.
I love answering medical questions, but please do be aware that my area of expertise is battlefield trauma care, so there will be discrepancies from civilian EMT care and long term treatments or support.
There are different ways they can serve, but obviously active combat is way down on the list. Just flat-out barring them is stupid if they want to serve. Let them analyze sat recon, let them fly a drone, let them file paperwork, let them be a cook, let them be in maintenance or inspections. There are plenty of other jobs they can do. Flat-out barring them from the military is just... dumb.
@famousone is 100% right, hormones are screwy and impact way more than what their "main function" seems to be. As a medic, that would be a nightmare. It can be a nightmare for a doctor just treating a regular citizen, as you're screwing with not just one hormone, but the entire balance of the endocrine system, which has an impact on other systems.
Ironically, this is the same idea by exponential devastation from climate change. As ecosystems are interconnected, as one fails, it impacts others, making them more vulnerable. Without intervention, it all fails and ends in death.
Every soldier needs to be combat ready. Whether they go on patrol every day, or sit in the S-shop for their entire career. Because they will be called upon to fight. It may be when their section is ambushed while in between FOBs, when the line units are overwhelmed, or simply because there's nobody else around who can do the job.
The moment the Army loses it's soldier-first mentality is the moment we forfeit our edge to any rival that holds on to the warrior mindset.
The first job of the United States Army is to kill bad guys and break their shit, but the most important job is to stand between our people and anyone who wishes them harm. We are not a corporation subject to social justice and diversity, we are a war machine meant to be shield the 99% who won't or who can't.
Every cook, every infantryman, every IT specialist, every medic, every soldier swears the same oath and lives the same creed.
I am an American Soldier.
I am a warrior and a member of a team.
I serve the people of the United States, and live the Army Values.
I will always place the mission first.
I will never accept defeat.
I will never quit.
I will never leave a fallen comrade.
I am disciplined, physically and mentally tough, trained and proficient in my warrior tasks and drills.
I always maintain my arms, my equipment and myself.
I am an expert and I am a professional.
I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy, the enemies of the United States of America in close combat.
I am a guardian of freedom and the American way of life.
I am an American Soldier.
Special snowflake because they are unique. Non-uniform. Special. You know what kind of chaos hormone therapy does to the body? How much harder that makes my job as a medic? Nevermind the issues of accommodations.
If you can't at least pretend for the duration of your service to be of sound mind, then you're a leech at best.
It changes hydration needs, effectiveness of painkillers and other drugs, dietary needs, etc.
And if I don't know the biological gender of my patient, there's signs and symptoms that vary as well. A man complaining of stomach pain may have food poisoning or appendicitis. A female may have food poisoning, appendicitis, or an ectopic pregnancy.
A man complaining of pain in his left shoulder may have a musculoskeletal problem, a female may be in the early stages of a medical emergency. Stuff like that.
The army has a hard enough time training us to treat healthy, fit people without throwing in the logistical mess of a transitioning soldier. And frankly, I'd rather focus on maintaining combat effectiveness, which transitioning soldiers are already a non-factor in as they can't train or deploy.
Like if they suffer weather injuries, major burns, traumatic amputations, crush injuries, or anything else that impacts multiple systems.
Life and death professions are no place for political correctness or inclusivity.
Are certain issues tied purely to sex that a difference in hormones would have little to no impact on? I know the hormones would change a lot of things, I'm just not sure of everything that isn't affected.
Something as unassuming as left side shoulder pain is more likely to be a medical emergency for one gender over the other.
Granted, I'm not dumping on my female comrades, these are just trends and scenarios that I am trained to address and be aware of.
@famousone is 100% right, hormones are screwy and impact way more than what their "main function" seems to be. As a medic, that would be a nightmare. It can be a nightmare for a doctor just treating a regular citizen, as you're screwing with not just one hormone, but the entire balance of the endocrine system, which has an impact on other systems.
The moment the Army loses it's soldier-first mentality is the moment we forfeit our edge to any rival that holds on to the warrior mindset.
The first job of the United States Army is to kill bad guys and break their shit, but the most important job is to stand between our people and anyone who wishes them harm. We are not a corporation subject to social justice and diversity, we are a war machine meant to be shield the 99% who won't or who can't.
Every cook, every infantryman, every IT specialist, every medic, every soldier swears the same oath and lives the same creed.
I am a warrior and a member of a team.
I serve the people of the United States, and live the Army Values.
I will always place the mission first.
I will never accept defeat.
I will never quit.
I will never leave a fallen comrade.
I am disciplined, physically and mentally tough, trained and proficient in my warrior tasks and drills.
I always maintain my arms, my equipment and myself.
I am an expert and I am a professional.
I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy, the enemies of the United States of America in close combat.
I am a guardian of freedom and the American way of life.
I am an American Soldier.