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jokur_and_batmon
· 4 years ago
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Eh life threatening injuries are treated before they ask for money (most cases) then once you’re well enough they’ll pile on the debt
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adam44
· 4 years ago
That's why there's insurance. I also would rather the American system then mine as a Canadian. We pay taxes for health care services. We then pay $50 for a doctors note, $300 for ambulance, full price for prescriptions, and if you buy insurance, the government ones are very technical and cover very little. America may be rough but Canadians are being bled dry of their money by force.
jokur_and_batmon
· 4 years ago
I have never seen a doctor outside of the emergency room, despite having a family history and clear symptoms of a life threatening disease. The only time I’ve seen a doctor is because I woke up at three am with the feeling that my toe was shattered and it turned out I had one of the worst infections the doctor had seen. His “cure” was to slice open my toe without any kind of numbing in a dirty ass ER waiting room. I had to go back a week later cause my toe was now redder than a tomato. Our healthcare system is not good by any means for the less fortunate. My family is decently above poverty and my parents and grandparent are veterans, but still can’t afford insurance on one person. So boohoo you pay full price for pills I will most likely die because I can’t get a blood transfusion one day
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famousone
· 4 years ago
Blood transfusions are considered lifesaving care. You'll get it when you need it.
adam44
· 4 years ago
Dude. Chill the hell out. I like you so please don't change that. I don't know how much insurance is aside from one American I met last year who said how efficient American hospitals are. I've done little research because it doesn't affect me. All I know is I'm paying too much for next to nothing. If you had simply stated your side I would have be really interested. Now I'm not sure because I don't want to fight with you over something stupid.
jokur_and_batmon
· 4 years ago
Sorry, it just annoys me to no end when people say “but America is efficient” or “tax based healthcare never helped anyone” (not that you explicitly said either). Cause I’ve never met a person here who’s had only good experiences with the current system and I have a few too many of my own horror stories than I care for. I’d love to have a discussion over it if you still wished to
adam44
· 4 years ago
That is why I like you. From my understanding a privatized health care industry urges efficiency and competition for customers. If an insurance company sucks they should lose everything since no one uses them. Same for hospitals unless those are generally government funded. Is that not the case? A dirty E.R. does not sound like a capitalist business.
jokur_and_batmon
· 4 years ago
So, most of the hospitals are owned by a very few companies so there’s little competition going on per say. It’d be nice if it worked that way, but the health system needs a big crackdown. They’ve essentially become monopolies, and that’s leading to things like epipens being 100’s of dollars and insulin prices inflating almost daily. The cost of private healthcare for me would be around 700$ a month (I’m a dependent of my mom as I’m a college student). That’s approximately a third of my moms monthly check or my entire monthly check, but we make too much money for the federal programs that are in place for the far less fortunate. I hope that explains a little more as to the state of things but I have way more info if you want! My family are almost all ex-army medics and are all now in the medical field professionally.
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adam44
· 4 years ago
What...the ever loving hell....Can we not have a medical system that actually cares about people? Canada's health system is taxes, Americans have a monopoly....Now I see why everyone keeps telling me to go to Mexico. People are great at screwing things up.
famousone
· 4 years ago
Honestly, if the feds would just butt out the American healthcare system would be much better. But no, instead Uncle Sam says only a few people can make insulin. Nevermind the headache that trying to open a medical practice is. Even MRIs are restricted to seven digit costing facilities.
jokur_and_batmon
· 4 years ago
But I’m glad they do butt in @famousone can you imagine what these corporations would do if they weren’t regulated at all? Life before the FDA was hell for many and caused loads of people to die of easily avoidable diseases. I’m not saying it’s perfect (it’s slow, underfunded, biased, bribed, etc.) but it has helped in the past and should be beaten back into helping us for the future.
famousone
· 4 years ago
And now life with the FDA is hell. I'm a medic, you have any idea how many lifesaving measures we aren't allowed to utilize stateside just because someone didn't suck off a congressman or offer enough "donations"? Nevermind the quality of life post-care that the Tricare refuses to authorize. Half of the poor bastards that come to sick call are hurting because Tricare providers fucked them up, nevermind the ones who won't get help in the first place because the Major would prefer playing golf or pumping iron instead of treating the battalion. You are asking for government work. I know firsthand what "Good enough for government work" looks like.