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fluffydress
· 4 years ago
Feminism is toxic.
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anha_rockitship
· 4 years ago
It’s true. Everything’s gone downhill since women got the right to vote
diminuendo
· 4 years ago
Irony aside, this "test" or "study" (whichever it is, it cannot be both in the context provided by the text) is deeply flawed for two primary reasons. The first is that the person involved never volunteered. All things aside, without proper authorization on the "boyfriend's" part, this is an ethical violation. The participants should first be allowed a chance to confirm whether they consent to the study, and then must be given some information related to the study. They don't necessarily need to be told the exact nature of the study if doing so compromises the results, but at the very least consent must be had and some information must be given. The fact that neither was presumably provided is a glaring indicator that this is not a genuine test, or at least not one that would pass by modern ethical standards. The second is that the "result" was explained almost immediately afterwards. This is not what a study is. A study is a collection of data for analysis upon the conclusion of...
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diminuendo
· 4 years ago
...every trial (I'm making a very large generalization-- not all studies are like this, but the texts suggest that this is the style of study that they should be aiming for). For this sort of study, the results would have to be announced when the analysis is done. More so to the point, this person should be given a chance to confirm whether or not they wish to hear of the results after the analysis has been compiled in a readable format. Assuming that this is in fact an attempt at a genuine study, this is both unethical and amateurish at best. Of course, I doubt that there was any study involved in this interaction, at least not a serious one.
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serenitas
· 4 years ago
can't people just say "hi"?
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guest_
· 4 years ago
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Hmmmm... yes, and no. You don’t have to justify WHY you’re sensitive about something- although perhaps Len sensitive about their height could be allies when people ask their pronouns be respected or such... but that said....
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guest_
· 4 years ago
But where this logic always falls apart to me is a coupon places. 1. The woman wasn’t asking maliciously. True- we could say it is insensitive which is sill bad, but asking something intending harm vs. asking something without intending offense aren’t the same thing.
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guest_
· 4 years ago
2. Perhaps most important in my mind- what is the practical application of the knowledge for the questions commonly asked of women? Breast size is relative subjective you understand? A 34C measures the circumference around bust and shoulders as 34”. Now- take a man with a 34” chest and add boobs- but keep the 34” circumference. That 34C will look much different than a person with a 29” chest without boobs and a 34” with. Do you understand?
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guest_
· 4 years ago
The frame of the woman as well as her body shape and other factors will dictate how her boobs look, a very petite and small framed woman can have proportions of an “average” woman with much larger breasts. A 36B can look HUGE on a tiny woman, but can look small on a larger woman. There are physics and biology too- without getting into implants. Breasts are complex and can’t be put to a metric- basically the only reason to care about breast size is if you want to e able to say “I dated a girl with CYZ size boobs!” Which in my book is a sign not to date you, and that you are probably a child or a creep.
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guest_
· 4 years ago
Height however IS functional. If a person is 5’4” and wants to wear 3 inch heels and be shorter than a partner- their partner must be at least 5’7”. Beyond the social construct that men “should be taller than their partners” which is bullshit- there is science behind it. The generally optimal height differential between partners is roughly a “head length.” The geometry works out pretty well for general activities as well as sex- in missionary position because of alignment of the genitals- the man being taller allows him to to face to face easier with his partner for kissing etc.
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guest_
· 4 years ago
Having dated and had sex with a woman over 2 feet shorter than myself- I can say that it can be challenging. The first time we tried to have sex in the shower we both cracked up because in order to make it work I had to squat in a low horse and it looked ridiculous and was clumsy. We also tried step stools and other ways to elevate her and none were ideal. Usually I’d just have to lift her and hold her up- which some men don’t have the strength for, but is still very tiring and isn’t the same thing as both people standing as far as options and such.
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guest_
· 4 years ago
I’ve also dated and slept with taller women- not so much taller as I was than that one woman- and that wasn’t so bad. It had some advantages too. Having never been MUCH shorter than a woman- I can’t speak from experience on that. I guess your face would be right at chest level in missionary- so that could be cool if you both enjoy boob play enough.
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guest_
· 4 years ago
Regardless- height is a functional metric. Beyond the bedroom- a 5’5” woman might like a partner who can reach things for her that she cannot. That has functional advantages. There are men who like short women, men who like tall women. It isn’t just men that have hang ups on height- and most of the short- especially REALLY short (like just over 5 foot) guys I’ve known who had dating trouble with height... most of it was them being hung up on not wanting to be shorter than their partner- not the other way around where the woman was so concerned.
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guest_
· 4 years ago
But you don’t really NEED to know a woman’s exact metrics to know if you find her attractive do you? Are you going to look at a woman who’s breasts and body you think look amazing and to your liking- and go “well... they LOOK good- but what size are they?” The male gaze is mostly concerned with proportion not scale- outside of kinks and suck like wanting an “amazon” or “mamazon” and such-
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guest_
· 4 years ago
Two women, both are size 4 dresses, both are 34 inch chests, 25 inch waist, 35~ hips. Both are 5 for 5. One weighs 115lbs and one weights 130lbs. The one that weighs 115 is a waif, little or no meat. The one that weighs 130 works out. You can tell the difference with your eyes. None of these metrics alone will tell you and most people don’t know enough about physiology to picture a person by the numbers.
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guest_
· 4 years ago
If you have a woman’s height and weight- that again tells you little- pictures will give you more useful information. Again- our 5’5” woman- if she weighs 130 but has a 30 inch waist and doesn’t work out- that is a very different woman from the two we mentioned earlier no? But height- height required scale. If you have “average” male proportions, no dwarfism or such- a picture of you doesn’t tell me your height. The Rock is a giant man. See those photos of him next to NBA stars? If you didn’t know who they were- is the nba player a giant and the rock is huge? Is the NBA player “average” and the rock is a tiny stocky man? It’s harder to gauge height from a photo since the framing and perspective of the shot will influence the perceived scale.
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guest_
· 4 years ago
So men can largely already get the information they most desire on physical characteristics of a female by looking at photographs. True- make up, filters, and good portrait photography or other tricks- or just out of date photos- can make the person you meet look different than the one you saw- but that’s true of anyone you see in a photo.
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guest_
· 4 years ago
Personally- I’d rather a woman ask me a disqualifying question BEFORE I set asides my time, drive somewhere, deal with parking and traffic and getting all gussed up and such- and then meet and wether she says it or not- have no chance from the moment we say hi. Ideally- people would want to get to know the person and care more about that than any superficial thing. But we are animals. For most of us sex and attraction are a large part of mating beyond JUST compatibility and security and such.
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guest_
· 4 years ago
By and large the more primitive parts of our nature seek certain things in a mate even if our sensibilities are more enlightened. Most Len like boobs. Not all men like “big boobs.” Most women want a partner who is more physically imposing. Not always the case- but there are primitive drives there. Few cultures do not find men who are more physically imposing to be more attractive- until you cross a line of exaggeration that is relative to culture and individual wherein their stature is so far beyond the range of average as to be seen as abnormal. Then it becomes a niche.
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