Not in the least. The resources donated and dedicated to a child's dying wish was in turn donated by the child to help people that they, and most everybody else, have no obligation to.
Stow to your toxic rhetoric and edgy deliberate misinterpretation. This was a kid who would otherwise never live long enough to help people taking their one last chance to help people.
The thing is though:
It shouldn’t need to be a problem that a kid would consider on his deathbed. Poverty shouldn’t be something that a kid has to generously try to combat.
I just don't see anyone else (gov) doing anything serious about combatting homeless issue.
And I know that it's a very complicated topic because there are homeless people who will definitely use whatever support they receive on gambling or drugs, or whatever landed them in poverty in the first place.
Which brings me to education. Education shouldn't be difficult to attain and it should be comprehensive.
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You don't want to see his point or do you just want him to say it out loud?
who tf is "us"?
Bruh if anything, homeless people *are* hurt and robbed. dafuq
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That's a very good question indeed. The following is attributed to Ghandi but he was just one of so many wise people so say something similar, so it's not an original quote: “The success of a society can only be measured by how well they treat their weakest and most helpless members”. While this is widely agreed upon, to many that sounds dangerously communist and generally disagreeable when they're actually demanded to contribute. So the easy solution is to excludes certain groups of individuals from the "us". The reasoning may change from time to time but rarely do the targets.
If they have been attacked, their attackers should be made to pay restitution and then be punished according to whatever laws were broken.
You should keep in mind that "not giving people stuff" is not an attack.
I do not care what Ghandi has to say about society. A government's purpose is to defend rights, enforce contracts, control borders, and otherwise fuck off.
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Denying people their fair share as members of a society is an attack though. You're right, a government is a means to an end, but the end you seem to have in mind would make Ayn Rand probably go "C'mon dude, seriously? Who hurt you?"
Denying people their fair share is an attack? I agree entirely. All persons are entitled to whatever compensation or trade they agreed to for whatever good they provided or service rendered.
To take a thing or refuse to pay for a job done to specification is theft. I already said that addressing theft is one of the government's duties.
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Great how some people can just kick significant groups of ACTUAL HUMAN BEINGS out of society without even mentioning them.
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Trouble with the helpless and poor? Just fucking ghost them *lol*
You can express something by not mentioning it and you're doing it all the time. You're excluding people who - in your opinion - have no goods to provide or services to render. Even though you pretend to ignore them, they still exist.
You weren't talking about the homeless or unemployed specifically. You were talking about people who are victims of theft or who have otherwise been attacked.
And I didn't exclude the homeless or unemployed in my response. If they have been victims of theft or broken contracts then their attackers should be made to pay restitution and punished according to whatever laws they broke.
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You confuse me with creativedragonbaby who said people were robbed and attacked. I have no intention to start discussing capitalism with you just like I wouldn't start a discussion about crack cocaine abuse with Tyrone Biggums.
You said that "denying people their fair share" is an attack. I only agreed with you. Then you accused me of kicking "ACTUAL HUMAN BEINGS out of society", and wrongly construed that I believe they have "no goods to provide or services to render". Additionally, you only really contributed to the conversation after we were talking about crimes and harm.
I'm alright with you throwing out strange insults and leaving the conversation. But don't try to tell us you didn't say what you said.
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Problem is discussions with you are like trying to nail jello to a wall. Your general point is "I didn't explicitely say that" while heavily insinuating that very thing you're not explicitely saying. Why say "All persons are entitled to whatever compensation or trade they agreed to for whatever good they provided or service rendered." instead of "All persons"? Why "victims of theft or broken contracts" instead of "anyone"? Try harder.
Stow to your toxic rhetoric and edgy deliberate misinterpretation. This was a kid who would otherwise never live long enough to help people taking their one last chance to help people.
It shouldn’t need to be a problem that a kid would consider on his deathbed. Poverty shouldn’t be something that a kid has to generously try to combat.
And I know that it's a very complicated topic because there are homeless people who will definitely use whatever support they receive on gambling or drugs, or whatever landed them in poverty in the first place.
Which brings me to education. Education shouldn't be difficult to attain and it should be comprehensive.
Bruh if anything, homeless people *are* hurt and robbed. dafuq
You should keep in mind that "not giving people stuff" is not an attack.
I do not care what Ghandi has to say about society. A government's purpose is to defend rights, enforce contracts, control borders, and otherwise fuck off.
To take a thing or refuse to pay for a job done to specification is theft. I already said that addressing theft is one of the government's duties.
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Trouble with the helpless and poor? Just fucking ghost them *lol*
And I didn't exclude the homeless or unemployed in my response. If they have been victims of theft or broken contracts then their attackers should be made to pay restitution and punished according to whatever laws they broke.
I'm alright with you throwing out strange insults and leaving the conversation. But don't try to tell us you didn't say what you said.