Christianity is name of the religion that includes the branches of catholics, baptists, presbetierion. Catholicism is just one of many denominations of christianity. So all catholics are christians, but not all christians are catholic.
Ok so you both decided to qote the first thing that came up in google search? Try doing some research, perhaps from a few credible resources. There is quite a bit of disagreement on whether or not Christianity and Catholism are the same thing. The Christain religion and Catholism are a lot different. The term christianity can be applied to both but the religions are different.
No I didn't do a google search. Christianity is the belief that Jesus was the son of God and the messiah and savior. That he died on the cross for our sins. There are different denominations of that core belief and catholicism is one denomination. Yes there is a big difference between the different branches but it all belongs on the tree of christianity.
Pebble is right! Hence "Christ"-ianity....pertaining to Christ. as in Jesus Christ. there is absolutely no debate on that what so ever. that's like debating that gravity doesn't exsist.
There is NOT a huge difference. Catholics are Christian but not all Christians are Catholic. Christianity is like a tree and Catholicism is just one of the many branches on the tree. Where are you guys getting your info from? Obviously you aren't even taking the time to look it up. WoOoOoOoOoOoOoW
Since you commented that you've never looked it up, do some research instead of automatically assuming your ideas are the only correct ones. Fun Substance is not the place for a religous debate.
"Catholicism (from Greek καθολικισμός, catholikismos, "according to the whole") is a broad term for describing specific traditions in the Christian churches in theology and doctrine, liturgy, ethics and spirituality." [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholicism]
"Catholicism is a denomination, hence a subset, of Christianity. All Catholics are Christians, but not all Christians are Catholics. A Christian refers to a follower of Jesus Christ who may be a Catholic, Protestant, Gnostic, Mormon, Evangelical, Anglican or Orthodox, or follower of another branch of the religion." [http://www.diffen.com/difference/Catholicism_vs_Christianity]
It's because they want people to have to work hard to find their info. It teaches you how to research, find things on your own, sift through a ton of shit to find the few gems you need. Having things easily available doesn't help you learn that lesson.
But of course, some people like to use the excuse that since it's editable by the community, that makes it wrong. While there are a few bad apples, that doesn't mean that all the info there is suspect. In fact, a ton of it provides the sources they used to put the different sections of the article together.
But go ahead and nitpick. I'm sure someone has a minute or two to find the exact same info from a source you find reputable...
Omg...you're an idiot. its common sense. Catholics belive jesus is christ. therefore, they are Christians. You know what....I'm done trying to make sense to you with facts. believe what u want. also there's no such thing as gravity. santa is real. and the easter bunny lays eggs.
AP I was wondering when you would degenerate to name calling because some people choose to disagree with you.
Mgoveia good one with the Easter Bunny but UGC is not accepted at higher levels because in order to be taken as fact a concept needs to be proven multiple times and peer reviewed.
U can disagree all u want. it doesn't change facts. you're an idiot bc you want to deny them. but I'm done, i would be just as much of an idiot if i kept arguing with u bc there is no arguement.
Aaaaaaand it's your job to sift through and FIND those.
Now, on topic, who freaking peer reviews articles and evidence that Catholicism is a branch of Christianity?
So... I'm sitting here looking through articles and blogs and religious sites that are a few mouse clicks away for US ALL, and almost without exception, they're saying that Catholicism is a branch of Christianity. There is a hair split here and there, along with the unsolicited Obama hate we've all come to expect when least expected, but you also have some people going into great detail about why this is so.
Meanwhile, you're asking for sources. Do we really have to spoonfeed things that are so easily looked up for yourselves? Because I have lmgtfy on speeddial.
Yes I am a teacher. Do you think that because my religious views differ from yours I shouldn't? Religion and public school should never mix. I am not the one whose comments degenerated to name calling because someone chose to express a different view.
I couldn't really laugh at that, because from experience, I know that it doesn't take much to be a teacher. This is not meant as an insult to KD at all. I can't even blame the teachers, much of the time. As if it's not bad enough that they aren't paid enough for doing one of the most important jobs in our, or any, country, they often have to deal with bullshit coming from 3 sides. Of course, those would be the kids, parents, and the administration itself. I can't blame some for thinking it's too much to overcome and just stop giving a shit.
Anywho, I couldn't really say whether KD is or would be a good teacher, I don't know the person at all. Although, sometimes, I'm left to wonder...
I'm guessing AP is becoming a bit more like me lately. Sometimes a handful of us FSers just get tired of all the bullshit you see flying around. Nitpicking of sources, while fine in an academic setting, might touch a nerve here, where you're often lucky to get one at all.
In conclusion (I bet you get sick of hearing that, eh?), I'm all up for discussion here, as long as people are willing to listen to the other side, and maybe, just MAYBE, altering their worldview a bit in light of compelling info. Sadly, much like IRL, you rarely see that on the internet.
Too true. Everyone is entitled to their own views. During this discussion I never once resorted to the "I'm right you're wrong" mentality. It is funny that one expression of opinion degenerated into personal attacks. The point of continuing it was to try and see the different side of the argument because there is equal information on both and neither side is scientific because religion at its core is not. I don't teach religion and the fact that I teach should never have been a part of this. Precisely why I leave teaching it to the people who've studied it all their lives.
I do question resources constantly because I deal with information from these resources constantly. We don't use the easy way in class because the easy way often leads misinformation. You would be amazed how little UGC is fact checked references or not. I don't expect others to be as neurotic about it as I am but if they are trying to convince others to their way of thinking they probably should research it.
Buddy (mgoveia), I'm sorry but i just can't believe this person is a teacher. they are arguing with facts...facts that are literally a few clicks away. If i could see this person in such a position, i wouldn't laugh at all.
P.s. are you getting soft? Lol
I wouldn't say soft, I just think I can salvage this. It's not like we're talking to Funsubstance's favorite homophobic clown.
As for fact-checking, thanks to the news, I'm gonna say there is no way I'd be surprised about that.
Concerning view, opinions, etc, I'd say that everyone is entitled to them as long as they are responsible about not propagating outright lies and "spin" as fact. Hiding behind the "opinion" shield has NEVER flown with me.
Except this isn't a fact like the earth is flat, or the sun revolves around the earth. This is a fact that just doesn't advance or change. Catholicism is a denomination and a branch of christianity
But it is a fact that there is arguement about. Not everyone believes it is fact. Definitions change as religious ideas do. There are several different sides to this including those that view it as a denomination of, a different animal entirely, and those that believe that one has become so twisted thatbit has morphed away from the other. Religion grows, advances, and changes just like everything else.
The other side of that coin is that if we are in a constant state of arguing about the basics, we'll never move on to the more complicated issues. I think that is equally important for our advancement.
You are very right but there is value in recognizing that other people have different views. The "I'm right you're wrong" attitude is what stifles new ideas. I never once insulted other ideas or people during this discourse. All I have been saying is that there are other ideas out there and it is always good to consider them. It's no wonder that more people don't choose to share different views here. For disagreeing with mainstream information people resorted to name calling and insulting my profession because apparently disagreeing with them makes me unqualified. At least I recognize there are other ideas out there even if I don't agree with them. It seems that ideas that are not mainstream are just not tolerated here. It amazes me that people who say they are open minded can't stand someone holding a different idea without resorting to insults.
Heh heh...on that subject, have you seen the "respect the feels" post? Even that clusterfuck hasn't made me shy about speaking my mind here, even when I know that most of FS will have a problem with it.
http://funsubstance.com/fun/69217/respecting-feels/
Beware: Contains people so hopelessly addicted to their "feels", that they go apeshit at the thought that a post might be faked, or someone in the post may have ulterior motives. Or just plain wants to play soldier without actually earning the right to wear the uniform. This is the first time I've seen that post after leaving months ago, so who knows what else was said.
wtf, mJg?! how come you can be abrasive but yet you let this ignoramus go on thinking their idiotic delusion is acceptable (or even encouragable)?! i read between the lines but this burnt out light bulb didn't catch it and you didn't reiterate it for them either (like you did on the other post). Don't get soft on me, suzy-q. LOL (i know you could care less but i like that u evoke strong emotions [be they pos. or neg.]; make people think; push them out their comfortable lil thinking box that has been built for them.] cheers, turd! ...keep pushing the line.
Most Christians already know how it's just a few bad ones that give us all a bad name. He's not teaching us how to be Christians he's teaching everyone else that we're not all bad
But of course, some people like to use the excuse that since it's editable by the community, that makes it wrong. While there are a few bad apples, that doesn't mean that all the info there is suspect. In fact, a ton of it provides the sources they used to put the different sections of the article together.
But go ahead and nitpick. I'm sure someone has a minute or two to find the exact same info from a source you find reputable...
The Easter Bunny shits eggs. Have you ever wondered why the eggs are chocolate?
Mgoveia good one with the Easter Bunny but UGC is not accepted at higher levels because in order to be taken as fact a concept needs to be proven multiple times and peer reviewed.
Now, on topic, who freaking peer reviews articles and evidence that Catholicism is a branch of Christianity?
So... I'm sitting here looking through articles and blogs and religious sites that are a few mouse clicks away for US ALL, and almost without exception, they're saying that Catholicism is a branch of Christianity. There is a hair split here and there, along with the unsolicited Obama hate we've all come to expect when least expected, but you also have some people going into great detail about why this is so.
Meanwhile, you're asking for sources. Do we really have to spoonfeed things that are so easily looked up for yourselves? Because I have lmgtfy on speeddial.
Anywho, I couldn't really say whether KD is or would be a good teacher, I don't know the person at all. Although, sometimes, I'm left to wonder...
I'm guessing AP is becoming a bit more like me lately. Sometimes a handful of us FSers just get tired of all the bullshit you see flying around. Nitpicking of sources, while fine in an academic setting, might touch a nerve here, where you're often lucky to get one at all.
I do question resources constantly because I deal with information from these resources constantly. We don't use the easy way in class because the easy way often leads misinformation. You would be amazed how little UGC is fact checked references or not. I don't expect others to be as neurotic about it as I am but if they are trying to convince others to their way of thinking they probably should research it.
P.s. are you getting soft? Lol
As for fact-checking, thanks to the news, I'm gonna say there is no way I'd be surprised about that.
Concerning view, opinions, etc, I'd say that everyone is entitled to them as long as they are responsible about not propagating outright lies and "spin" as fact. Hiding behind the "opinion" shield has NEVER flown with me.
Beware: Contains people so hopelessly addicted to their "feels", that they go apeshit at the thought that a post might be faked, or someone in the post may have ulterior motives. Or just plain wants to play soldier without actually earning the right to wear the uniform. This is the first time I've seen that post after leaving months ago, so who knows what else was said.