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jjohnson21
· 11 years ago
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This is not the same thing at all...
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kikipj
· 11 years ago
Why do you say that?
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jjohnson21
· 11 years ago
Because Obama care makes us pay money for health care we don't want, it's not using our tax dollars for what we don't agree with, that would be the case if he used our tax dollars to fund a national healthcare plan, but he is taking money from our pockets with this. My family does not have healthcare, nor can we afford to, but we have to get it now and we have to spend our own money on it,
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kikipj
· 11 years ago
I understand what you are saying about spendig our own money. But even if the war wasn't paid for by our own money it was still paid for by the taxes that we had to pay. It funded something that some people didn't want their tax dollars spent on. Taxes that they might believe could have been better spent elsewhere. Maybe there could have been ways to change government spending so people wouldn't have to spend their own money to pay for health care.
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jjohnson21
· 11 years ago
Right I agree with what you're saying, but it's not the same, using tax dollars is one wrong thing (I believe all income tax is unconstitutional) but forcing us to purchase healthcare if wrong. My father is a carpet installer, should a law be passed that everyone has to buy new carpet annually?
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kikipj
· 11 years ago
I agree that they shouldn't force us to purchase healthcare but rather have it as just an alternative. In which we get to decide whether we want to pay for it or not. Taxes though I do believe are needed, it just has to be better spent. Well I wouldn't compare carpets to healthcare and war.
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jjohnson21
· 11 years ago
I compared it to healthcare, it's something that should not be up to the government whether we have or not. It's my money and they have no right to make me spend it
15jbaughman
· 11 years ago
While I am in no way a supporter of obamacare, it also makes sense that our taxes could be better managed. Kudos to the both of you. I thoroughly enjoy seeing a sophisticated discussion between two slightly conflicting viewpoints that doesn't end in arguments and name-calling. Now if only we could get our government officials to act the same way....
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jjohnson21
· 11 years ago
Haha well thank you!
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guest
· 11 years ago
Agree with J. I've already heard from many families that the "free" healthcare they went to get is way over their budgets and they just aren't going to get it, can't afford to. Course that means they get penalty taxed for not having it, but what can you do. And many of my friends that already HAD good insurance...you know, insurance that was supposed to be good enough for obamacare....ya they all got cancellation notices, going to have to resign up for insurance next year, at increased rates of course, for "obamacare certified" insurance. Its all a big scam
jjohnson21
· 11 years ago
Exactly^
guest
· 10 years ago
The system is flawed, the ideology of everyone having free healthcare is a real possibility.
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