without a hidden camera, i'd probably be in jail for rape, so they are worth having. In the end, I still will never let a girl hit me just because they think they can, a strike for a strike is self defense, and there's no instance where it is not.

basically, women will lie to incriminate a man, so best to have video recording to prove who threw the first punch

didn't notice a downvote. But i'd like to find out on the Thurston case, seems a raw deal if he was charged with assault for restraining her, obviously didn't put his case forward on it. What's the other option, get killed, but at least that's legal?

i'd like to know any situation where a person acting in self defense ended up being found guilty of assualt.

and i'm just saying that i would never again just take getting hit. Striking once hit, is in itself self defense.

a person will only put up with so much crap, and then it's no patience for it. been there, done that, so no patience for being hit again. used to always refuse to fight back because i've had some training and have hurt others.
hope it never happens, but if you ever in a relationship where the other keeps on hitting you, you'll get to the point where you don't give a shit anymore and will strike back.

that's just saying a girl is fking stupid for punching a guy twice her size and expecting nothing to happen back

in regards to me throwing my ex against a wall. would i do things differently now? yes, instead of staying, i'd still throw her against the wall, but leave. leave her in not only a foreign city, but a foreign country, no money, no means to support herself, and no way home. That's what she deserved.

yes, they don't have to, but seen plenty that intervene, only when the male fights back, that's not biased, that's observation. Nothing "straw man" on anything when it's based on experience.
Hitting isn't getting even, it's the consequence of hitting someone in the first place. You may be a push over in life, I'm not, and as I said, i'm not going to let anyone just punch, hit or kick me without a retaliation.
And I have told a cop, one in the domestic violence division, exactly what I did, he asked the right questions, not just assumed i'm hitting back for "revenge". He also stated it was a shame i didn't get the knife incident on video, though i did use a hidden camera to get her to admit to lying about rape.

defending with a punch for a punch is self defense, you really going to go white knight on a guy for defending himself? you're one of those that watch when the girl is hitting, but only intervene when the guy fights back, holding back the guy?
girl slaps me, i slap back, girl hits me, i hit back, girl punches me, I hit back, girl kicked me, i caught her foot and threw her against a wall, all of that is self defense. Anyone that intervenes and white knights because i defended myself will get the same treatment.

exgf attacked me with a knife, bent her wrist so far back that was a snap, not broken, but would definitely hurt. so i should be cut or killed, she was trying to slice my throat.
I will defend myself, doesn't matter what gender the other is, attack me, get punched or worse, not going to take getting hit, there's no excuse for anyone to attack and believing that they shouldn't get anything back is ridiculous.
Saw video recently, some guy recording his female friend hitting this guy, in the head, repeatedly. He got fed up, hit her once, hard, she went down, out cold. So you think he should be charged with assault because he defended himself? He reacted to a situation that ended her assault on him, and your jury would have him sitting in jail?
If you think women can't be hit back because they don't deserve it, then you are proving the equal rights will never exist.

yeah true, cause people tend to believe the woman's side of the story. Yes, if a woman punches a man, and the man punches back, that's the start of a fight. You're believing I'd keep on throwing fists to win, it's only one punch.
If you think a man shouldn't defend themselves against a woman, so it's ok for a woman to be hitting a man, because she's a woman, and the guy, under no circumstance is allowed to defend himself because you'd say he's the one to be arrested? at what point should he stop the assault, or should a guy just give up?

@guest_ yes, if anyone hits me, I'll hit them back, that's returning the favour. Retaliation is waiting for a time to "get even", self defense is in the moment. No court would find anyone guilty of assault for striking back in self defense.

@general_failure so if someone is defending themselves, they should go to jail as well? I disagree, you may want to be a punching bag, but never will i let anyone, male or female get away with a strike on me

self defense is returning the favour, what's so acceptable that someone, a girl, can hit another and not receive anything back?

if a white knight had a go at me because i defended myself against a girl, you bet they wouldn't be standing for long